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Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

mholper84 — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 17:56:51 GMT

Can anyone tell me how to or where the numbering feature would be in REvit 17 CADmep Fabrication for duct. I have heard that this feature is finally available in 2017, but i cannot seem to locate it. All i am trying to do is assign individual piece number to each piece of duct and the fittings like you can with AutoCad.

Thank you

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

RobertAGlover — Tue, 22 Nov 2016 19:52:18 GMT

I haven't seen anything built into Revit direct, though I number of add-ons are available to renumber just about anything. Also please make sure you are using 2017.1 update. There were some pretty big additions in that release worth spending the time on for the upgrade. Hope this helps.

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

davidronson — Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:08:01 GMT

Applied Software has a renumbering tool specifically for Fabrication parts in Revit. It takes also takes advantage of the exposed Item Number field so the information will export with the .maj.

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

RobertAGlover — Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:39:53 GMT

As I mentioned a number of plug-ins are available from various re-sellers.

Can you provide a link? Is there a cost? Thank you.

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

mholper84 — Thu, 01 Dec 2016 18:39:43 GMT

Hello,

I contacted Applied Software about this Revit Fabrication tool. They are still testing it out right now, hoping to make available for public purchase in the next few weeks.

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

davidronson — Thu, 01 Dec 2016 22:00:34 GMT

hint***ask if they need any beta testers

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

davidronson — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 15:47:50 GMT

Just finished a short video of the expected features.

http://asti.com/News-Events/blogs/PostId/2148/renumbering-tool-for-fabrication-in-revit

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

mholper84 — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 15:54:55 GMT

Great thank you! Do you know when this will become available, by chance. I asked about beta testing and they didn't need anyone else. We are in need of a renumbering tool!

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

davidronson — Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:18:49 GMT

It is available as of today.

http://asti.com/fabforrevit

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

mholper84 — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 16:03:50 GMT

I have the Revit Renumber tool now and got it work, sort of. Can you tell me if the item number tags in the screenshot below are something that come with Revit Fab, come with the renumber tool, or is this something that I am going to have to make every single tag we need from scratch? It seems as though these should be stored somewhere? Thank you!

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

davidronson — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 16:27:11 GMT

Tags are very customizable in Revit and our goal is to NOT lock users into a certain look or workflow. Some companies have expressed interest in using Oval Tags for Over Duct and Square Tags for Square Duct etc etc. We felt it best to allow each company to have control over how their tags display rather then lock you into a certain style.

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

davidronson — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 16:41:17 GMT

I have attached the annotation family I used in the video. There are also several annotation families that come with the default installation, paths listed below. These can be edited and repurposed to annotate other types of data.

Ductwork - C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\RVT 2017\Libraries\US Imperial\Annotations\Mechanical\Duct

Pipework - C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\RVT 2017\Libraries\US Imperial\Annotations\Pipe

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

mholper84 — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 17:22:52 GMT

Thank you very much!!

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

mholper84 — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:16:47 GMT

David,

Another question about the Revit Renumber tool now that I am giving it a try. Sorry, I am not sure if this is the forum to keep asking questions, but hopefully I'm just overlooking the answer. Is there not a way to give identical pieces the same part number and also select the order you would like to tag? If I check one, the other gray's out(screenshot below). It's not the end of the world if my part numbers jump from piece to piece but, wondering if there is a way to make this happen.

Thank you for all the help

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

davidronson — Sat, 24 Dec 2016 01:55:18 GMT

We could probably make this happen. Typically when selecting items in a specific order, each piece has a different number regardless if they are the same or not. But, or course that is just my perception of the work flow. Let me talk to development to see what we can do to make both happen.

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

mholper84 — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:14:41 GMT

Thanks for looking in to it for me. Like I said, it's not the end of the world if all the piece numbers are jumping from one piece to the next. But, on the larger floors or systems with lots of duct work it's easier for the field guys if the part numbers are closer together. It's also our shops preference to have identical pieces to have the same number. So, that's the reasoning why we like to have both options. Again, we really appreciate all the help!

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

RobertAGlover — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:26:46 GMT

That is standard practice for us as well, so I imagine it's going to be a fairly common request.

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

davidronson — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:32:51 GMT

Great! More fire power to get it done! Ill pass it along.

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

RobertAGlover — Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:30:35 GMT

I've been looking for other utilities that provide the function of renumbering fabrication parts.

Bad news: I can't seem to find anything but the Applied version. There are lots of other renumber tools out there, but apparently they are limited (I'm assuming by the API) to only certain types of categories, and the fabrication parts are just too new for developers to focus on it yet.

Good news: Based on the comments here, reviews and such, it looks like Applied did their job well in developing this utility, but only time and use will tell.

Now if only I could get a copy of it... hint hint

Re: Numbering Duct with Revit 17 Fabrication

davidronson — Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:23:58 GMT

Robert - I can hook you up with a trial if you'd like. Email anytime...dronson@asti.com