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    <title>tema DGNIMPORT creates duplicate blocks with diff names en AutoCAD Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;AutoCAD/Civil 3D 2014&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;When we import a DGN file that contains multiple insertions of the same cell, each insertion becomes a differently named BLOCK after the import.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;In some cases, there are hundreds of insertions of a particular cell/block which means in the DWG, instead of having hundreds of insertions of a single block definition, we end up with hundreds of block definitions, each inserted once.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here is a Microstation dialog showing 2 of the same named cells (there are about 20 of these cells inserted in the DGN)&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://cadpanacea.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/cells2.png" border="0" alt="" title="" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here is the result (list of blocks) after DGNIMPORT. Each one of the "Check?" blocks are the same.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://cadpanacea.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/blocks1.png" border="0" alt="" title="" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If we open the DGN in Microstation and then save as a DWG, the result is better, meaning that not all of the cells are treated this way, but it still does the same thing to *some* of them. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for this.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;The end user wants to edit this block one time and have all the insertions update, but that's impossible of course when this happens.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Any thoughts?&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:50:05 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>rkmcswain</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-12-11T13:50:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>DGNIMPORT creates duplicate blocks with diff names</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/dgnimport-creates-duplicate-blocks-with-diff-names/m-p/5947514#M106395</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;AutoCAD/Civil 3D 2014&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When we import a DGN file that contains multiple insertions of the same cell, each insertion becomes a differently named BLOCK after the import.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In some cases, there are hundreds of insertions of a particular cell/block which means in the DWG, instead of having hundreds of insertions of a single block definition, we end up with hundreds of block definitions, each inserted once.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here is a Microstation dialog showing 2 of the same named cells (there are about 20 of these cells inserted in the DGN)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://cadpanacea.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/cells2.png" border="0" alt="" title="" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here is the result (list of blocks) after DGNIMPORT. Each one of the "Check?" blocks are the same.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://cadpanacea.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/blocks1.png" border="0" alt="" title="" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If we open the DGN in Microstation and then save as a DWG, the result is better, meaning that not all of the cells are treated this way, but it still does the same thing to *some* of them. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The end user wants to edit this block one time and have all the insertions update, but that's impossible of course when this happens.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Any thoughts?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 13:50:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>rkmcswain</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-12-11T13:50:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: DGNIMPORT creates duplicate blocks with diff names</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/dgnimport-creates-duplicate-blocks-with-diff-names/m-p/5947671#M106403</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;In Civil 3D, use MAPIMPORT instead of DGNIMPORT. &amp;nbsp;It's much cleaner and the projection won't be thrown off. &amp;nbsp;Make sure to check the box to Import Polygons as Closed Polylines.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:27:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/dgnimport-creates-duplicate-blocks-with-diff-names/m-p/5947671#M106403</guid>
      <dc:creator>ToddRogers-WPM</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-12-11T15:27:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: DGNIMPORT creates duplicate blocks with diff names</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/dgnimport-creates-duplicate-blocks-with-diff-names/m-p/5947711#M106409</link>
      <description>Are the cells, perhaps, not shared cells, so they are translated as separate blocks?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:42:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/dgnimport-creates-duplicate-blocks-with-diff-names/m-p/5947711#M106409</guid>
      <dc:creator>artc2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-12-11T15:42:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: DGNIMPORT creates duplicate blocks with diff names</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/dgnimport-creates-duplicate-blocks-with-diff-names/m-p/5952244#M106697</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV style="font-size: 12px; font-style: italic; color: blue; margin-left: 25px; margin-bottom: 25px; padding: 3px; border: 1px dotted black; font-family: verdana;"&gt;TRogers wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In Civil 3D, use MAPIMPORT instead of DGNIMPORT. 
&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;

Same results. Multiple "alike" blocks with different names.

Thanks.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:23:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/dgnimport-creates-duplicate-blocks-with-diff-names/m-p/5952244#M106697</guid>
      <dc:creator>rkmcswain</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-12-15T15:23:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: DGNIMPORT creates duplicate blocks with diff names</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/dgnimport-creates-duplicate-blocks-with-diff-names/m-p/5952250#M106698</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV style="font-size: 12px; font-style: italic; color: blue; margin-left: 25px; margin-bottom: 35px; padding: 3px; border: 1px dotted black; font-family: verdana;"&gt;artc2 wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Are the cells, perhaps, not shared cells, so they are translated as separate blocks?&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I believe you're on to something here.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I &lt;A style="text-decoration: underline;" href="http://communities.bentley.com/communities/other_communities/askinga/w/askinga/differences-between-cell-types" target="_blank"&gt;found this&lt;/A&gt;, but not sure if there is anything we can do to the original DGN file to fix this.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:27:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>rkmcswain</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-12-15T15:27:03Z</dc:date>
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