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    <title>idea Window families cut plane defined by View Range en Revit Ideas</title>
    <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idi-p/7006313</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I would like to see the option to have window families cut based on the view range that they are visible in.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Currently the cut plane is set within the family itself which for a basic window is fine but when things start getting more complex we end up with windows showing incorrectly - this is especially true when a window extends over more than one floor.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Just to be clear I'd be looking for a checkbox to switch between the way it works now and what is proposed above not a wholesale change.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Cheers&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;K.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:11:40 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Keith_Wilkinson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-04-10T11:11:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Window families cut plane defined by View Range</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idi-p/7006313</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I would like to see the option to have window families cut based on the view range that they are visible in.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Currently the cut plane is set within the family itself which for a basic window is fine but when things start getting more complex we end up with windows showing incorrectly - this is especially true when a window extends over more than one floor.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Just to be clear I'd be looking for a checkbox to switch between the way it works now and what is proposed above not a wholesale change.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cheers&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;K.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:11:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idi-p/7006313</guid>
      <dc:creator>Keith_Wilkinson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-10T11:11:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Window families cut plane defined by View Range</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7006471#M7158</link>
      <description>You can do that modifying each window family. Removing the Symbolic Lines on plan views and letting models lines be visible.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:27:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7006471#M7158</guid>
      <dc:creator>samuelsanf</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-10T12:27:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Window families cut plane defined by View Range</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7006489#M7159</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Umm, no you can't. &amp;nbsp;Where the family cuts has nothing to do with symbolic lines. &amp;nbsp;It's set in the family and as such ignores the View Range in the project file.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:32:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7006489#M7159</guid>
      <dc:creator>Keith_Wilkinson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-10T12:32:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Window families cut plane defined by View Range</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7007499#M7172</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I thought there was already an Idea submitted on this issue, else I would have submitted a long time ago. &amp;nbsp;Someone must have been reading about Aaron Maller using Generic Models for windows since, well, they work the way they should without having to create a bunch of workarounds.&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 18:52:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7007499#M7172</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-10T18:52:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Window families cut plane defined by View Range</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7042360#M7650</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/2171684"&gt;@Keith_Wilkinson&lt;/a&gt;, pardon the late response, but I'd like to jump in and make a comment.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I'm not clear where you got the idea that Windows&amp;nbsp;do&amp;nbsp;not cut&amp;nbsp;in accordance to the project's View Range. They most definitely do. Because of this certainty (and the 5 Kudos that your Idea received), I am wondering if I misunderstood you.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Now, if you are referring to Legends, then you absolutely correct. The Legend cut plane for a Window is defined by the cut plane in the Window family. I posted a neat workaround&amp;nbsp;to this not long ago on this Forum.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I believe what&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/817292"&gt;@samuelsanf&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;was referring to was Masking Region - not Symbolic Lines. In order to see the Window model geometry in project cut view, you need to do away with Masking Regions in the&amp;nbsp;family -- if your Window family has them. &amp;nbsp;Delete the masking region and you might as well delete the Symbolic Lines too, since it's unlikely you need or see them without the&amp;nbsp;masking region.&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2017 01:30:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7042360#M7650</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-26T01:30:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Window families cut plane defined by View Range</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7042946#M7665</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Are you stalking me? &amp;nbsp;;o)&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Sorry I have to disagree with you - windows and doors don't solely follow the cut plane of the view - it is a combination of both the view range in the project and the view range in the family. &amp;nbsp;. &amp;nbsp;This is nothing to do with masking regions or symbolic lines.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;See image below for an example of the issue - first 2 families are windows with different cut planes set in the family itself, the 3rd window is the same family but changed to the generic model category - this is the only one that correctly shows the window as it should be cut by the view range in the project.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;When you start getting into nested families it gets even more complicated. &amp;nbsp;Honestly the fact the that view range / cut plane in the the family has any bearing on how the element shows in the project is frankly just confusing.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;One of my main reasons for looking for this is to try and deal with the issues of windows that span over more than one floor.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="2017-04-26_09-51-08.jpg" style="width: 705px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/349537iEE86F4F15CD61406/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="2017-04-26_09-51-08.jpg" alt="2017-04-26_09-51-08.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2017 08:52:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7042946#M7665</guid>
      <dc:creator>Keith_Wilkinson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-26T08:52:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Window families cut plane defined by View Range</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7045497#M7696</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;First off: not “stalking”you. Just stumbled onto this thread when I checked your profile to see if I could figure out what mountain is shown in your Avatar. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Regarding this thread, I did misunderstand you. I’ve wrote many a forum thread venting my frustrations about this behavior. And it’s not only the cut plane in the family that affects the cut view in the project – it’s also the &lt;U&gt;default sill height&lt;/U&gt; (not actual Sill Height). What will really bakes my&amp;nbsp;noodle is that I&amp;nbsp;can change that parameter &lt;U&gt;in the project&lt;/U&gt;, and it will also effect a change to the cut view representation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;You may already do this: &amp;nbsp;I use closely cropped Plan Regions to mitigate (setting the same distance for their cut plane and top plane).&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;p.s. getting better: I got only 2 underlines on this one.&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://forums.autodesk.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.png" alt="Guiño" title="Guiño" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 04:11:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7045497#M7696</guid>
      <dc:creator>barthbradley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-27T04:11:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Window families cut plane defined by View Range</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7045725#M7713</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;that's a relief...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;The photo was taken at Chamonix looking back across the valley towards Mont Blanc - the scenery around there is just amazing. &amp;nbsp;If you've never been I'd highly recommend it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I hadn't considered the default sill height as being a factor as well - that's quite interesting, I'll need to run some further tests on that as well to try and understand how that plays into things.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I simply don't get what the intended benefit of this behaviour is - does anyone know why? &amp;nbsp;@autodesk?&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:45:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/7045725#M7713</guid>
      <dc:creator>Keith_Wilkinson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-04-27T07:45:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Window families cut plane defined by View Range</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/11837603#M50433</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;yep this has been a problem for 15 years. come on Autodesk!!!!!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2023 21:40:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/11837603#M50433</guid>
      <dc:creator>RyanBradley_JACOBS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-21T21:40:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Window families cut plane defined by View Range</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/12656923#M56657</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As a great man once said, Revit has very few solutions but lots of workarounds. This is a perfect example.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2024 17:18:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/window-families-cut-plane-defined-by-view-range/idc-p/12656923#M56657</guid>
      <dc:creator>scmAA4X2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-03-21T17:18:31Z</dc:date>
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