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    <title>idea REFERENCE PLANES TIED TO VISIBILITY PARAMETERS en Revit Ideas</title>
    <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reference-planes-tied-to-visibility-parameters/idi-p/13017102</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Currently there is no way to control the visibility of "grips" in our families, because reference planes cannot be hidden via the visibility parameter. This seems like a massive oversight, as there are countless forums on the internet and AutoDesk discussing the missing feature.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't understand why this issue hasn't been addressed... it's seems obvious beyond doubt that users would want/need this feature, yet it remains un-checked.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please include this quality of life feature so that your users can better (and more easily) create the tools they need to do their jobs.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The workarounds for this feature are poor and best and fail to accomplish the end goal. We pay a lot of money to use this software, and it feels very sloppy sometimes.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;ALSO, Please update your forum categories, they are lacking.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 16:26:57 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>pjacksonrjc</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-09-12T16:26:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>REFERENCE PLANES TIED TO VISIBILITY PARAMETERS</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reference-planes-tied-to-visibility-parameters/idi-p/13017102</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Currently there is no way to control the visibility of "grips" in our families, because reference planes cannot be hidden via the visibility parameter. This seems like a massive oversight, as there are countless forums on the internet and AutoDesk discussing the missing feature.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't understand why this issue hasn't been addressed... it's seems obvious beyond doubt that users would want/need this feature, yet it remains un-checked.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please include this quality of life feature so that your users can better (and more easily) create the tools they need to do their jobs.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The workarounds for this feature are poor and best and fail to accomplish the end goal. We pay a lot of money to use this software, and it feels very sloppy sometimes.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;ALSO, Please update your forum categories, they are lacking.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 16:26:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reference-planes-tied-to-visibility-parameters/idi-p/13017102</guid>
      <dc:creator>pjacksonrjc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-12T16:26:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: REFERENCE PLANES TIED TO VISIBILITY PARAMETERS</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reference-planes-tied-to-visibility-parameters/idc-p/13017506#M59627</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You can accomplish this by adding detail lines with visibility parameters and dimensioning those with the instance parameters you want. If you then make your ref plans set to "not a reference" you can turn the grips on or off.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The circled dimensions are to the red dashed detail lines which have visibility controls. The other dimensions are to the ref planes which the filled region edges are locked too.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="MikeFORM_1-1726170018624.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1408693i126FCC2FCB2558A6/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="MikeFORM_1-1726170018624.png" alt="MikeFORM_1-1726170018624.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="MikeFORM_0-1726169731097.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1408689iA9AEE7E64E951C28/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="MikeFORM_0-1726169731097.png" alt="MikeFORM_0-1726169731097.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="MikeFORM_1-1726169760834.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1408690i472D135C256739CA/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="MikeFORM_1-1726169760834.png" alt="MikeFORM_1-1726169760834.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In model families you can also use model lines to have the grips in 3D views.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Using detail lines, model lines or even ref lines (no visibility parameter) also lets you control where the grip will be as it will be placed at the midpoint of the line.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:41:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reference-planes-tied-to-visibility-parameters/idc-p/13017506#M59627</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mike.FORM</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-12T19:41:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>回复： REFERENCE PLANES TIED TO VISIBILITY PARAMETERS</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reference-planes-tied-to-visibility-parameters/idc-p/13017605#M59628</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;My thanks... this works. However, it still feels like a janky workaround.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Your reply is appreciated&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 20:21:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reference-planes-tied-to-visibility-parameters/idc-p/13017605#M59628</guid>
      <dc:creator>pjacksonrjc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-12T20:21:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: REFERENCE PLANES TIED TO VISIBILITY PARAMETERS</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reference-planes-tied-to-visibility-parameters/idc-p/13017624#M59630</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Agreed, it could be made easier by having a yes/no parameter for ref planes called "grip control" or something this way it wouldn't actually hide the ref plane but just turn the grip off.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 20:30:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reference-planes-tied-to-visibility-parameters/idc-p/13017624#M59630</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mike.FORM</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-12T20:30:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: REFERENCE PLANES TIED TO VISIBILITY PARAMETERS</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reference-planes-tied-to-visibility-parameters/idc-p/13037038#M59861</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As per&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/7063269"&gt;@Mike.FORM&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;this works, the "yes/no" literally exists with the "not a reference" type, it would be confusing to then also have this as a tick box.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Use reference lines to control the position of the grips, the grip is at the midpoint of the line. Use invisible lines, with the visibility parameter set to have grips that turn on and off and still allow you to control the position. This is one line based family, when set to sloped two grips appear, each at the end they control. When set to level only one grip in the centre. Is this not what you want to achieve?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screenshot-2024.09.23-933.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1412264iA739EBD5F4D8FF8F/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Screenshot-2024.09.23-933.png" alt="Screenshot-2024.09.23-933.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Revit-2024.09.23-932.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1412265i23FB02C768D876B3/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Revit-2024.09.23-932.png" alt="Revit-2024.09.23-932.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 23:39:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/reference-planes-tied-to-visibility-parameters/idc-p/13037038#M59861</guid>
      <dc:creator>michael.warwick</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-22T23:39:20Z</dc:date>
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