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    <title>idea Fix area rules with new subordinate area type en Revit Ideas</title>
    <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/fix-area-rules-with-new-subordinate-area-type/idi-p/11831307</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Area rules&amp;nbsp;don’t work for measuring apartments in Australia. They also don’t work&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;as stated on the Autodesk website. Given the lack of fuss about this, I’m guessing how they actually work aligns with the system of measurement in America.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For the most part it is possible to work around this, but&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;we still have to draw the edges of balconies in even if there are walls, because we run out of hierarchical &amp;nbsp;choices to get the line to place properly.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If&amp;nbsp;Exterior Area worked as it says it does on the Autodesk website, we wouldn’t need to do this. But I suspect it’s the website that’s ‘wrong’ from Autodesk’s perspective, so if&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;changing the existing rules is a problem, the other fix would be a new subcategory that is subordinate to all other categories. ie, the reverse of Major Penetration, it always measures to the &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;EM&gt;inside&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; face of a wall. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;eg&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;Subordinate Area / Site / Surrounds / No category / Nil..? &amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Even better would be to have area rules that actually work as we need them to here in Australia..&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Options:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. ‘Fix’ the area rules to work as per website? (Or fix the website, &lt;EM&gt;and&lt;/EM&gt; do one of the following):&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Create new subordinate subcategory that enables us to adapt the rules to suit our system of measurement&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. Enable editing of the area rules!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2023 21:55:01 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>awithersPLMTL</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-03-18T21:55:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Fix area rules with new subordinate area type</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/fix-area-rules-with-new-subordinate-area-type/idi-p/11831307</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Area rules&amp;nbsp;don’t work for measuring apartments in Australia. They also don’t work&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;as stated on the Autodesk website. Given the lack of fuss about this, I’m guessing how they actually work aligns with the system of measurement in America.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For the most part it is possible to work around this, but&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;we still have to draw the edges of balconies in even if there are walls, because we run out of hierarchical &amp;nbsp;choices to get the line to place properly.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If&amp;nbsp;Exterior Area worked as it says it does on the Autodesk website, we wouldn’t need to do this. But I suspect it’s the website that’s ‘wrong’ from Autodesk’s perspective, so if&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;changing the existing rules is a problem, the other fix would be a new subcategory that is subordinate to all other categories. ie, the reverse of Major Penetration, it always measures to the &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;EM&gt;inside&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; face of a wall. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;eg&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;Subordinate Area / Site / Surrounds / No category / Nil..? &amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Even better would be to have area rules that actually work as we need them to here in Australia..&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Options:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. ‘Fix’ the area rules to work as per website? (Or fix the website, &lt;EM&gt;and&lt;/EM&gt; do one of the following):&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Create new subordinate subcategory that enables us to adapt the rules to suit our system of measurement&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. Enable editing of the area rules!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2023 21:55:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/fix-area-rules-with-new-subordinate-area-type/idi-p/11831307</guid>
      <dc:creator>awithersPLMTL</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-18T21:55:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fix area rules with new subordinate area type</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/fix-area-rules-with-new-subordinate-area-type/idc-p/11861714#M50674</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have a similar need to change the way Revit is applying area rules to specific areas.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In South Africa we need to measure Coverage and Floor Area Ratio both on the exterior face of the building. I could use the Gross Building Area scheme but then I cannot select Major Vertical Penetration to subtract that area for double volume areas above, plus we also measure GBA differently to FAR. So either way I have to create additional Area Schemes and manually draw each line individually, effectively making the "Rules" set by each scheme totally useless to me.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It would help so much if I could just set the rules for each Area Type in a Scheme individually.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Furthermore, we also have to calculate the internal floor area separately to determine our Fenestration Limits, so I inevitably end up making 3 or 4 different area schemes and having to manually draw each individual line as Area Boundary. This process is killing a lot of time for me.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2023 07:56:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/fix-area-rules-with-new-subordinate-area-type/idc-p/11861714#M50674</guid>
      <dc:creator>BennieBurger</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-03-31T07:56:20Z</dc:date>
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