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    <title>idea Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views en Revit Ideas</title>
    <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idi-p/10052415</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Sometimes when you are designing a grand staircase, it is useful to document the underside of the stair.&amp;nbsp; Currently, there is no good way to display an accurate representation of a stair's underside in an RCP view.&amp;nbsp; I propose that an option be added to a stair's type properties that toggles between traditional RCP view or actual accurate representation of the modeled stair in RCP view.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2021 22:56:11 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>svalenta</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-02-02T22:56:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idi-p/10052415</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sometimes when you are designing a grand staircase, it is useful to document the underside of the stair.&amp;nbsp; Currently, there is no good way to display an accurate representation of a stair's underside in an RCP view.&amp;nbsp; I propose that an option be added to a stair's type properties that toggles between traditional RCP view or actual accurate representation of the modeled stair in RCP view.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2021 22:56:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idi-p/10052415</guid>
      <dc:creator>svalenta</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-02T22:56:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10273239#M38449</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Upvoted. I'm actually surprised this is still an issue considering how far back this issue dates. I would be interested to hear if there is any "official" explanation as to why Revit hides stair elements when in an Reflected Ceiling Plan, or why they are specifically avoiding addressing this gap.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It should be possible via transparency or other means to allow treads and landings to be visible in an RCP. If you tab-select a stair, you can actually cycle through the various pieces and select them, but they can only display tem&lt;SPAN style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;porarily. This is what we want to see!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Even if there was a subcategory of whatever is masking the bottom of the stair to be able to turn off, that would work. In this case, this a stair in the middle of a space, not having a door to a "stairwell" makes it very ambiguous as to what direction the stair is going or if there are intermediate landings on this level that require lighting.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Stair RCP Snip.png" style="width: 766px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/912434i6F8D6652EA68E248/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Stair RCP Snip.png" alt="Stair RCP Snip.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2021 21:11:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10273239#M38449</guid>
      <dc:creator>matt.hand52</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-27T21:11:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Stairs in looking up plans</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10824302#M42799</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Can you please make hidden lines for Stairs in STR plans looking up.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 09:52:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10824302#M42799</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ahmed_Muharram</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-12-15T09:52:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stairs in looking up plans</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10824457#M42800</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I think Plan Region + a Filter works just fine&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:22:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10824457#M42800</guid>
      <dc:creator>RDAOU</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-12-15T11:22:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10825087#M42809</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3448664"&gt;@RDAOU&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Could you share more details of your scheme?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 16:32:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10825087#M42809</guid>
      <dc:creator>matt.hand52</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-12-15T16:32:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10825128#M42810</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/10538547"&gt;@matt.hand52&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Since it is an UP view, Set the view range of the crop region to the level&amp;nbsp; below stair with depth unlimited...this should show u the riser/tread ... add a filter to override stairs in&amp;nbsp; view to hidden/dashed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 16:48:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10825128#M42810</guid>
      <dc:creator>RDAOU</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-12-15T16:48:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10825260#M42811</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3448664"&gt;@RDAOU&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Okay that does indeed work to show the stair in the way that we would want. The problem then is just how that effects presentation of MEP Elements that we need to show around the stair. The output from that solution puts all elements within that region to the "&amp;lt;Beyond&amp;gt;" Line style regardless of if it is above or below the stair, they all will appear the same:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="matthand52_0-1639587970087.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1001931iDC428D5E0469456F/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="matthand52_0-1639587970087.png" alt="matthand52_0-1639587970087.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="matthand52_1-1639588010708.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1001932i6A9EE22F8970573D/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="matthand52_1-1639588010708.png" alt="matthand52_1-1639588010708.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Since this is an "Up" View, the element above the stair should be showing as &amp;lt;Beyond&amp;gt;/Hidden while the fixture below the stair should be full tone; if you were looking up from under the stair, that is the first thing you would see. Moving a fixture outside the Plan Region shows it as full tone, but this is the one I want to show Hidden being above the stair landing:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="matthand52_2-1639590287488.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1001949i2BB8C9D51BCFD97C/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="matthand52_2-1639590287488.png" alt="matthand52_2-1639590287488.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So it is a nice workaround Architecturally perhaps, but we need to get this exact stair presentation without the Plan region, then these elements should show correctly. That's pointing at ADesk, not you RDAOU&amp;nbsp;&lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://forums.autodesk.com/html/@3AA2FDA34A0866C875F74437DFB84C8A/emoticons/1f601.png" alt=":cara_que_ríe_con_la_boca_abierta_y_los_ojos_sonrientes:" title=":cara_que_ríe_con_la_boca_abierta_y_los_ojos_sonrientes:" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 17:49:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10825260#M42811</guid>
      <dc:creator>matt.hand52</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-12-15T17:49:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10897116#M43220</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm struggling with this topic. I've been trying&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3448664"&gt;@RDAOU&lt;/a&gt;'s method of using a plan region, but it's not working for me. The &amp;lt;Above&amp;gt; Supports on each side and the &amp;lt;Above&amp;gt; Outlines are visible, but not the treads &amp;amp; risers or any other part of the stair. The run of the stair will high-light for pre-select when the cursor moves over any tread/riser and I can select it, but I can't do anything to do it - can't change VG is any manner. I can also select the stair itself as in any other view, but the treads/risers of the run are not visible in either pre-selection or selection.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 19:40:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10897116#M43220</guid>
      <dc:creator>mpukas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T19:40:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10897158#M43221</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Plan region should be setup like this:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Primary range:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- Top: at bottom of stairs&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- Cut plane: below stairs&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- Bottom: same as Cut plane&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;View Depth: above top of stair&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 20:00:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10897158#M43221</guid>
      <dc:creator>ToanDN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T20:00:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10897169#M43222</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/244938"&gt;@ToanDN&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;- Thanks for the reply. I did not have the Top set correctly. Changing it to the bottom of stairs, instead of above the top of the stairs, makes the stair visible. Thank you!!!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 20:05:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10897169#M43222</guid>
      <dc:creator>mpukas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-21T20:05:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10979428#M43735</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Vote for improving stairs in Revit!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/central-stringer-beam/idi-p/10962944" target="_blank"&gt;https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/central-stringer-beam/idi-p/10962944&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2022 13:03:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/10979428#M43735</guid>
      <dc:creator>mromagnoli</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-03-02T13:03:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/12297106#M54010</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/244938"&gt;@ToanDN&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I tried to set up the plan region view range the way you said but the stairs still don't show.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I make the cut plane any lower everything turns black.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="sahibZLTGS_1-1696962458018.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1277553i3944C8F5E23D83D1/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="sahibZLTGS_1-1696962458018.png" alt="sahibZLTGS_1-1696962458018.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2023 18:33:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/12297106#M54010</guid>
      <dc:creator>sahibZLTGS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-10-10T18:33:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/12297161#M54011</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ensure the offsets from the lower floor are at the same height that the stair starts from the level. In my projects, I have finished floors that are anywhere from 0.5" to 2.25" above the level, and that's the height that I start the stairs.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've given up on this method, even though ToanDN's suggestion works. There are still a couple of major drawbacks and PIA aspects to trying to achieve this. One being the stairs cannot be made transparent within the viewport (at least I can't make them transparent) and they hide any light place directly above. Without the viewport, lights above are visible. I now use detail lines to represent the stair treads.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2023 18:57:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/12297161#M54011</guid>
      <dc:creator>mpukas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-10-10T18:57:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/12400721#M54781</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;+1, please let us see the stairs properly in RCPs (including railings).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2023 07:37:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/12400721#M54781</guid>
      <dc:creator>_dalewfd</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-26T07:37:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/12802683#M57870</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13640557"&gt;@sahibZLTGS&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Check the stair type is a assembled stair and it has treads assigned to it, I proved several types and this is the only configuration where the View region works.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2024 16:44:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ODP_MED_DCadena</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-05-28T16:44:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Option to show stairs in true representation in RCP views</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/option-to-show-stairs-in-true-representation-in-rcp-views/idc-p/12916717#M58830</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes, it would be good to have the option to switch off each of the visibility 'quirks' (such as this, and 'short walls') so we could start with a clean view of the model.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 10:38:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>DavidWoodCT</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-07-24T10:38:29Z</dc:date>
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