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    <title>idea Modify Sub-Elements on pitched Roofs/Floors en Revit Ideas</title>
    <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/modify-sub-elements-on-pitched-roofs-floors/idi-p/8276240</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Flat roofs are often installed on pitched decks so that the majority of insulation is of continuous thickness.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Crickets are created around the perimeter by tapering the insulation layer for drainage and wrapping the membrane over the wall.&amp;nbsp; Revit however does not allow for modifying sub-elements on pitched roofs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This sticks us with the task of modifying the entire roof from flat for both crickets and the primary pitch.&amp;nbsp; What's wrong with that?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="image.png" style="width: 565px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/547601i64060F86F6D12F16/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="image.png" alt="image.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That's what's wrong with that.&amp;nbsp; Because parts of the roof end up below the base level NONE of the layers can be variable, so the rigid insulation can't be shown tapering properly.&amp;nbsp; We're left with an air space under the cricket that has to be filled in graphically.&amp;nbsp; Joins with walls also cause errors that can't be fixed by changing the join order.&amp;nbsp; Even if you try to build the roof out of individual segments you can't taper a layer from both sides.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We need the ability to establish a base slope for the whole roof with the option to thicken portions where needed.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:06:27 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>kgatzke</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-09-18T18:06:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Modify Sub-Elements on pitched Roofs/Floors</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/modify-sub-elements-on-pitched-roofs-floors/idi-p/8276240</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Flat roofs are often installed on pitched decks so that the majority of insulation is of continuous thickness.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Crickets are created around the perimeter by tapering the insulation layer for drainage and wrapping the membrane over the wall.&amp;nbsp; Revit however does not allow for modifying sub-elements on pitched roofs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This sticks us with the task of modifying the entire roof from flat for both crickets and the primary pitch.&amp;nbsp; What's wrong with that?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="image.png" style="width: 565px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/547601i64060F86F6D12F16/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="image.png" alt="image.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That's what's wrong with that.&amp;nbsp; Because parts of the roof end up below the base level NONE of the layers can be variable, so the rigid insulation can't be shown tapering properly.&amp;nbsp; We're left with an air space under the cricket that has to be filled in graphically.&amp;nbsp; Joins with walls also cause errors that can't be fixed by changing the join order.&amp;nbsp; Even if you try to build the roof out of individual segments you can't taper a layer from both sides.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We need the ability to establish a base slope for the whole roof with the option to thicken portions where needed.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:06:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/modify-sub-elements-on-pitched-roofs-floors/idi-p/8276240</guid>
      <dc:creator>kgatzke</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-18T18:06:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Modify Sub-Elements on pitched Roofs/Floors</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/modify-sub-elements-on-pitched-roofs-floors/idc-p/8338663#M23376</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I just ran into this same problem.&amp;nbsp; I have a roof where the structure slopes in one direction and that slope is fine for the majority of the roof but I still need to add crickets to divert water around some parapet walls.&amp;nbsp; I hope Autodesk will correct this issue.&amp;nbsp; For now, I will just have to draw in crickets on my roof plan with lines.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:25:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/modify-sub-elements-on-pitched-roofs-floors/idc-p/8338663#M23376</guid>
      <dc:creator>TimGrissom</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-16T19:25:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Modify Sub-Elements on pitched Roofs/Floors</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/modify-sub-elements-on-pitched-roofs-floors/idc-p/9666573#M33176</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is crucial for tapering down rigid insulation when the roof extends beyond the conditioned building.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2020 15:27:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/modify-sub-elements-on-pitched-roofs-floors/idc-p/9666573#M33176</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-31T15:27:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Modify Sub-Elements on pitched Roofs/Floors</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/modify-sub-elements-on-pitched-roofs-floors/idc-p/10071027#M36513</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;any help to problems above? This seems like simple stuff that should not require custom in place modeling, but I don't see any other solutions at this point since we cannot modify sub elements of a sloped roof.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The number of things I have to model in place due to Revit's limitations limits the ability to model parametrically, becoming harder to justify using system families in more and more of my projects.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2021 22:07:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/modify-sub-elements-on-pitched-roofs-floors/idc-p/10071027#M36513</guid>
      <dc:creator>kristian</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-02-09T22:07:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>implement the possibility to create parts for sloped roof and pitched roof</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/modify-sub-elements-on-pitched-roofs-floors/idc-p/11909011#M51178</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;We need to export in IFC 4 all materials included in the roof’s packaged and their own width.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;this can be possible only with the creation of the parts inside the model, infact&amp;nbsp;For FLAT roof (Without slope) it is possible to create the parts and each material and its width is exported , while if we apply a slope (by modification of Sub Elements and entering a variable thickness) &amp;nbsp;or if we create a pitched roof it is not possible to create the parts &lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;and consequently we cannot export the width of each single material. for our work process this is a big limitation.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 06:55:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-ideas/modify-sub-elements-on-pitched-roofs-floors/idc-p/11909011#M51178</guid>
      <dc:creator>Serena_Fusi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-04-20T06:55:45Z</dc:date>
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