ObjectErased event question

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ObjectErased event question

Anonymous
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‎11-15-2001 11:02 PM
All,

I have a polyline with xdata attached to it. The xdata contains three
handles to other objects. In the ObjectErased event, I would like to
retrieve the xdata and delete the other three objects as well.

However, in order to retrieve the xdata in ObjectErased, I need an
object, which no longer exists in the database. The ObjectErased Event
gives me an ObjectID. I tried ThisDrawing.ObjectIDtoObject but I
received an error (the object is already gone).

How should I handle this? Should I store the xdata elsewhere in another
object, or use a dictionary? Something/somewhere else?

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,

Danny Polkinhorn
Perkins & Will
Atlanta
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Anonymous
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‎11-16-2001 12:13 AM
I had the same problem. My solution was to store the ObjectID's of all related objects in
a collection. Then I could check the ObjectID in the Object_Erased event to see if it was
a member of the collection. If so, the ObjectID's of its companion objects are also in
the collection. I had only two objects to deal with (a text object and a wipeout object),
so parsing the list wasn't too difficult. I would imagine you would need something a bit
more structured for a larger number of objects. A dictionary sounds better suited to the
task.

I am sure this is not the most elegant approach, but it worked. I would certainly be
interested in hearing other ideas.

Chuck


"Danny P." wrote in message
news:3BF52A97.8020206@nspam.perkinswill.com...
> All,
>
> I have a polyline with xdata attached to it. The xdata contains three
> handles to other objects. In the ObjectErased event, I would like to
> retrieve the xdata and delete the other three objects as well.
>
> However, in order to retrieve the xdata in ObjectErased, I need an
> object, which no longer exists in the database. The ObjectErased Event
> gives me an ObjectID. I tried ThisDrawing.ObjectIDtoObject but I
> received an error (the object is already gone).
>
> How should I handle this? Should I store the xdata elsewhere in another
> object, or use a dictionary? Something/somewhere else?
>
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>
> Danny Polkinhorn
> Perkins & Will
> Atlanta
>
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Anonymous
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‎11-16-2001 01:07 AM
Danny, Chuck,

You both are trying to solve the problem the classic problem of object
relationships, and keeping them in sync. It's pretty hard to do with VBA.
With ObjectARX, you could solve part of the problem because you can open up
"erased" objects for reading. However, you are really just scratching the
surface of the problem. What happens on Undo/Redo, Copy, Copy Clip, etc?

If you are using Architectural Desktop, this problem is addressed with
"Anchors". Anchors allow AEC objects to be attached to any AutoCAD entity.
The anchors can constrain movement, or just provide a link between the
objects. In Danny's case, a MultiView Block object, (user defined graphics)
could be anchored to a polyline object. If the object is erased, the MVBlock
is erased as well. If "Undo" happens, the MVBlock is un-erased as well and
re attached to the polyline.

Again, this is a very hard problem to solve completely.

Cheers,

Peter Funk
API Product Manager
Building Industry Division
Autodesk, Inc.
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Anonymous
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‎11-16-2001 02:45 AM
Peter/Chuck,

Thanks for replying.

Peter, as you know, we are using ADT so I'll look into the anchoring
process. You're right, I do have to worry about undos, etc. If
anchoring takes care of that for me, it sounds like it'll be a better route.

Can I access the attributes in the Multi-view block just like I can with
a standard block? I took a quick peek at the Object Browser, and I
don't see anything which would indicate that I could.

Thanks again,
Danny

Peter Funk - Autodesk, Inc wrote:

> Danny, Chuck,
>
> You both are trying to solve the problem the classic problem of object
> relationships, and keeping them in sync. It's pretty hard to do with VBA.
> With ObjectARX, you could solve part of the problem because you can open up
> "erased" objects for reading. However, you are really just scratching the
> surface of the problem. What happens on Undo/Redo, Copy, Copy Clip, etc?
>
> If you are using Architectural Desktop, this problem is addressed with
> "Anchors". Anchors allow AEC objects to be attached to any AutoCAD entity.
> The anchors can constrain movement, or just provide a link between the
> objects. In Danny's case, a MultiView Block object, (user defined graphics)
> could be anchored to a polyline object. If the object is erased, the MVBlock
> is erased as well. If "Undo" happens, the MVBlock is un-erased as well and
> re attached to the polyline.
>
> Again, this is a very hard problem to solve completely.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter Funk
> API Product Manager
> Building Industry Division
> Autodesk, Inc.
>
>
>
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Anonymous
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‎11-16-2001 03:55 AM
Danny,

The attributes that display in a MVBlock generally get their text from a
property set, therefore to change the attribute you would change the
property data. As you know, property data can be placed on any AutoCAD
entity, including polylines. The definition of the attribute (font, size
etc) is set in the underlying block that is used in the MVBlock.

Let me know what you are trying to do, and I'll give you a more targeted
answer.

Cheers,

Peter Funk
API Product Manager
Building Industry Division
Autodesk, Inc.


"Danny P." wrote in message
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> Peter/Chuck,
>
> Thanks for replying.
>
> Peter, as you know, we are using ADT so I'll look into the anchoring
> process. You're right, I do have to worry about undos, etc. If
> anchoring takes care of that for me, it sounds like it'll be a better
route.
>
> Can I access the attributes in the Multi-view block just like I can with
> a standard block? I took a quick peek at the Object Browser, and I
> don't see anything which would indicate that I could.
>
> Thanks again,
> Danny
>
> Peter Funk - Autodesk, Inc wrote:
>
> > Danny, Chuck,
> >
> > You both are trying to solve the problem the classic problem of object
> > relationships, and keeping them in sync. It's pretty hard to do with
VBA.
> > With ObjectARX, you could solve part of the problem because you can open
up
> > "erased" objects for reading. However, you are really just scratching
the
> > surface of the problem. What happens on Undo/Redo, Copy, Copy Clip, etc?
> >
> > If you are using Architectural Desktop, this problem is addressed with
> > "Anchors". Anchors allow AEC objects to be attached to any AutoCAD
entity.
> > The anchors can constrain movement, or just provide a link between the
> > objects. In Danny's case, a MultiView Block object, (user defined
graphics)
> > could be anchored to a polyline object. If the object is erased, the
MVBlock
> > is erased as well. If "Undo" happens, the MVBlock is un-erased as well
and
> > re attached to the polyline.
> >
> > Again, this is a very hard problem to solve completely.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Peter Funk
> > API Product Manager
> > Building Industry Division
> > Autodesk, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
>
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Anonymous
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‎11-16-2001 04:36 AM
Peter,

Thanks for taking my simple project and making really complicated!
Since this is ADT related, I'm moving to the other newsgroup.

-Danny

Peter Funk - Autodesk, Inc wrote:

> Danny,
>
> The attributes that display in a MVBlock generally get their text from a
> property set, therefore to change the attribute you would change the
> property data. As you know, property data can be placed on any AutoCAD
> entity, including polylines. The definition of the attribute (font, size
> etc) is set in the underlying block that is used in the MVBlock.
>
> Let me know what you are trying to do, and I'll give you a more targeted
> answer.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter Funk
> API Product Manager
> Building Industry Division
> Autodesk, Inc.
>
>
> "Danny P." wrote in message
> news:3BF55EB4.1030402@nspam.perkinswill.com...
>
>>Peter/Chuck,
>>
>>Thanks for replying.
>>
>>Peter, as you know, we are using ADT so I'll look into the anchoring
>>process. You're right, I do have to worry about undos, etc. If
>>anchoring takes care of that for me, it sounds like it'll be a better
>>
> route.
>
>>Can I access the attributes in the Multi-view block just like I can with
>>a standard block? I took a quick peek at the Object Browser, and I
>>don't see anything which would indicate that I could.
>>
>>Thanks again,
>>Danny
>>
>>Peter Funk - Autodesk, Inc wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Danny, Chuck,
>>>
>>>You both are trying to solve the problem the classic problem of object
>>>relationships, and keeping them in sync. It's pretty hard to do with
>>>
> VBA.
>
>>>With ObjectARX, you could solve part of the problem because you can open
>>>
> up
>
>>>"erased" objects for reading. However, you are really just scratching
>>>
> the
>
>>>surface of the problem. What happens on Undo/Redo, Copy, Copy Clip, etc?
>>>
>>>If you are using Architectural Desktop, this problem is addressed with
>>>"Anchors". Anchors allow AEC objects to be attached to any AutoCAD
>>>
> entity.
>
>>>The anchors can constrain movement, or just provide a link between the
>>>objects. In Danny's case, a MultiView Block object, (user defined
>>>
> graphics)
>
>>>could be anchored to a polyline object. If the object is erased, the
>>>
> MVBlock
>
>>>is erased as well. If "Undo" happens, the MVBlock is un-erased as well
>>>
> and
>
>>>re attached to the polyline.
>>>
>>>Again, this is a very hard problem to solve completely.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Peter Funk
>>>API Product Manager
>>>Building Industry Division
>>>Autodesk, Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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We use Bing to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Bing. Ads are based on both Bing data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Bing has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Bing to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Bing Privacy Policy
G2Crowd
We use G2Crowd to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by G2Crowd. Ads are based on both G2Crowd data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that G2Crowd has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to G2Crowd to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. G2Crowd Privacy Policy
NMPI Display
We use NMPI Display to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by NMPI Display. Ads are based on both NMPI Display data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that NMPI Display has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to NMPI Display to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. NMPI Display Privacy Policy
VK
We use VK to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by VK. Ads are based on both VK data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that VK has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to VK to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. VK Privacy Policy
Adobe Target
We use Adobe Target to test new features on our sites and customize your experience of these features. To do this, we collect behavioral data while you’re on our sites. This data may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, your IP address or device ID, your Autodesk ID, and others. You may experience a different version of our sites based on feature testing, or view personalized content based on your visitor attributes. Adobe Target Privacy Policy
Google Analytics (Advertising)
We use Google Analytics (Advertising) to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Google Analytics (Advertising). Ads are based on both Google Analytics (Advertising) data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Google Analytics (Advertising) has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Google Analytics (Advertising) to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Google Analytics (Advertising) Privacy Policy
Trendkite
We use Trendkite to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Trendkite. Ads are based on both Trendkite data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Trendkite has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Trendkite to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Trendkite Privacy Policy
Hotjar
We use Hotjar to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Hotjar. Ads are based on both Hotjar data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Hotjar has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Hotjar to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Hotjar Privacy Policy
6 Sense
We use 6 Sense to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by 6 Sense. Ads are based on both 6 Sense data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that 6 Sense has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to 6 Sense to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. 6 Sense Privacy Policy
Terminus
We use Terminus to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Terminus. Ads are based on both Terminus data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Terminus has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Terminus to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Terminus Privacy Policy
StackAdapt
We use StackAdapt to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by StackAdapt. Ads are based on both StackAdapt data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that StackAdapt has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to StackAdapt to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. StackAdapt Privacy Policy
The Trade Desk
We use The Trade Desk to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by The Trade Desk. Ads are based on both The Trade Desk data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that The Trade Desk has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to The Trade Desk to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. The Trade Desk Privacy Policy
RollWorks
We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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