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jkwilliams
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Vault for simple .Dwg file management with Civil3D

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10-04-2011 02:12 PM

Hi,

I have a number of licenses of Civil3D 2011, and I wish to use standard Vault for simple Check-In and Check-Out of .Dwg files, without all the references etc to Civil3D projects etc.

 

Is there a way I can configure Vault for simple .Dwg file management as it works with standard AutoCAD or AutoCAD Map?

 

Regards,

 

Jim Williams

Thanks Richard,

 

I understand that this can be achived withthe standard AutoCAD profile, and this works, however it would mean closing down the Drawing in Civil3D and opening it up in AutoCAD to do the Check-In and create the .dwg visualisaton file.

 

It seems clear to me that it will be best to create a seperate C3D Vault Database based on a Civil3D Vault Project, and have all the Civil3D Survey users connect to this Database.

 

Best Regards,

 

Jim

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Richard.Rankin
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Re: Vault for simple .Dwg file management with Civil3D

10-07-2011 04:23 AM in reply to: jkwilliams

Can you tell me why you would need to do this?

 

What is it about the interface that makes you want to revert to the base AutoCAD functionality?



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Re: Vault for simple .Dwg file management with Civil3D

10-09-2011 03:00 PM in reply to: jkwilliams

Richard,

 

Thanks for your interest here.

 

As mentioned earlier I need simple Check-In and Check-Out of .Dwg files, without references to "Civil3D Projects".

 

The standard AutoCAD interface does not require the user to select a Project, and I would like my Civil3D users to use the same as my AutoCAD Users, for support and training purposes.

 

Regards,

 

Jim

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Richard.Rankin
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Re: Vault for simple .Dwg file management with Civil3D

10-11-2011 01:41 AM in reply to: jkwilliams

Hi jkwilliams,

 

I asked this question internally to see if we could offer any alternative suggestions. The bottom line is, if your users are using C3D features like Points, Point Groups, Intersections, they should be using the C3D Vault Addin Interface. The C3D Vault supports those features.

 

If the users are not using those C3D features, they can close C3D and run the Vanilla AutoCAD profile to get the standard AutoCAD Vault checkin interface.

 

I hope this helps.

 

 

 



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Re: Vault for simple .Dwg file management with Civil3D

10-11-2011 02:11 PM in reply to: jkwilliams

Richard,

 

Thanks for your comments here.

 

My users of Civil3D will be usign the software for Survey related work, preparing mainly Parcel deposited Plans, but will use Points groups, and some basic TIN surfaces, but will not need to share C3D objects.

 

I do however want thier data backed up in our Vault configured for AutoCA use with other internal departments.

 

Why would I use the Vautl for Civil3D, when all I need is simple Check-In and Check-Out?

 

Id I don't want to actual share C3D Objects, why would I use it?

 

Regards,

 

Jim

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Re: Vault for simple .Dwg file management with Civil3D

10-11-2011 02:14 PM in reply to: jkwilliams

Richard,

 

You wrote earlier:

 

If the users are not using those C3D features, they can close C3D and run the Vanilla AutoCAD profile to get the standard AutoCAD Vault checkin interface.

 

I assume you mean use the AutoCAD "2D Drafting & Annotation" Workspace?

 

I have tried this, and I still get prompted to select a Civil3D Project, which is not what I want.

 

Any way around this "Project" issue with Civil3D?

 

Regards,

 

Jim

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chearhuat
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Re: Vault for simple .Dwg file management with Civil3D

10-11-2011 06:48 PM in reply to: jkwilliams

Hi jkwilliams,

 

In native ACAD, vault uses XREF ESW (Enhanced Secondary Window) for all the vault operation. Probably you could try it out...

 

 

Regards,
Chear Huat.



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Re: Vault for simple .Dwg file management with Civil3D

10-11-2011 11:17 PM in reply to: chearhuat

Chear,

 

Thanks for the suggestion of using XREF ESW (Enhanced Secondary Window).

 

How would I access this within Civil3D 2011?

 

Regards,

 

Jim

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Re: Vault for simple .Dwg file management with Civil3D

10-12-2011 12:53 AM in reply to: jkwilliams

Hi Jim,

 

You could invoke XREF ESW via commandline, 'XREF'. Do note that 'XREF' will have no information of C3D project, and all its contained file relationships.

 

Regards,
Chear Huat.



Chear Huat
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Re: Vault for simple .Dwg file management with Civil3D

10-12-2011 01:38 AM in reply to: jkwilliams

Chear,

 

I have run the XREF command, and there is no clear way of doing a Check-In or Check-Out in Vault with no reference to a Civil3D Project.

 

If I select the file in the XREF Window, I am still prompted to select a Civil3D Project.

 

How do I work around this?

 

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