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Vault 5 Autoloader

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Message 1 of 14
karthur1
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Vault 5 Autoloader

I have a large number of files that I tried to load into vault with the Vault 5 Autoloader. These files are in my workspace. Some of the files in my workspace are already loaded into vault, but some are not.

When I ran the autoloader, I was asked to map the workspace to a vault directory. It seems that I must use the "Design" directory. That is not part of my file structure. See the attached file. The file structure in the Red box is what the autoloader added. The files in the subfolders "FMI Jobs" and "FMIPN" are duplicated in the existing Engineering folder. I can't just "move" the files from the Designs folder to the Engineering folder because the files already exist in the Engineering folder and I can't be sure which is the latest version.
If I would have been able to map to the "Engineering" folder and not be forced to use the "Design" folder, all of this could have been avoided.

Also when Autoloader got to the "Autoload Progress and Report", I got this error message (see reply for ss). You can tell by the status bar that some of the data was loaded. When I clicked "OK" the autoloader was closed.

Unless I'm missing something, the Autoloader is useless to me unless I can map the folder to where I want it. Is there anyway that I can work around this?
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Message 2 of 14
karthur1
in reply to: karthur1

Here is the screen shot of the error message.
Message 3 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: karthur1

Hello,
During the folder mapping stage of the Autoload process, you can rename the
Designs folder. That said, since your files are already in Vault, you can
use Move folder to ease the restructuring of your files.

--
Brian Schanen
Product Designer - Data Management
Manufacturing Solutions Division
Autodesk, Inc.
wrote in message news:5167015@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have a large number of files that I tried to load into vault with the
Vault 5 Autoloader. These files are in my workspace. Some of the files in
my workspace are already loaded into vault, but some are not.

When I ran the autoloader, I was asked to map the workspace to a vault
directory. It seems that I must use the "Design" directory. That is not
part of my file structure. See the attached file. The file structure in the
Red box is what the autoloader added. The files in the subfold
ers "FMI Jobs" and "FMIPN" are duplicated in the existing Engineering
folder. I can't just "move" the files from the Designs folder to the
Engineering folder because the files already exist in the Engineering folder
and I can't be sure which is the latest version.
If I would have been able to map to the "Engineering" folder and not be
forced to use the "Design" folder, all of this could have been avoided.

Also when Autoloader got to the "Autoload Progress and Report", I got this
err
or message (see reply for ss). You can tell by the status bar that some of
the data was loaded. When I clicked "OK" the autoloader was closed.

Unless I'm missing something, the Autoloader is useless to me unless I can
map the folder to where I want it. Is there anyway that I can work around
this?
Message 4 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: karthur1

wrote in message news:5167015@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have a large number of files that I tried to load into vault with the
Vault 5 Autoloader. These files are in my workspace. Some of the files in
my workspace are already loaded into vault, but some are not.

When I ran the autoloader, I was asked to map the workspace to a vault
directory. It seems that I must use the "Design" directory. That is not
part of my file structure. See the attached file. The file structure in the
Red box is what the autoloader added. The files in the subfold
ers "FMI Jobs" and "FMIPN" are duplicated in the existing Engineering
folder. I can't just "move" the files from the Designs folder to the
Engineering folder because the files already exist in the Engineering folder
and I can't be sure which is the latest version.
If I would have been able to map to the "Engineering" folder and not be
forced to use the "Design" folder, all of this could have been avoided.

Also when Autoloader got to the "Autoload Progress and Report", I got this
err
or message (see reply for ss). You can tell by the status bar that some of
the data was loaded. When I clicked "OK" the autoloader was closed.

Unless I'm missing something, the Autoloader is useless to me unless I can
map the folder to where I want it. Is there anyway that I can work around
this?


_______________________

I ran into the same thing. I already had a Vault set up, and a workspace
for it, and some files already vaulted, and wanted to get the rest of the
dataset uploaded. So I ran Autoloader, and it "helpfully" added the Designs
folder to my vault, and insisted that I really wanted to put the files there
rather than with the rest of my data. So the alternative is to go back to
using the 'add files' command from the Vault menu in Inventor. The
workflow, which I got to experience several times last week, goes like this:

1) Invoke the Add Files command.
2) Inventor spends about 90 minutes validating the dataset.
3) Inventor completes the validation, and begins pushing the data to Vault.
3) A few minutes later it crashes. We're sorry for the inconvenience.

:-/

Walt
Message 5 of 14
karthur1
in reply to: karthur1

Brian,
I could not find a way to rename the Design folder. If I renamed it in Vault Explorer, Autoloader would always add a new "Design" folder when I ran it. Can you explain in a little more detail about how to rename the folder?

I don't really want to "Rename" the design folder, I want to map my workspace to the "Engineering" folder. I already have files existing in the "Engineering" folder. I don't think I should be even allowed to rename it since a folder with that name already exists.
Message 6 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: karthur1

There is a button in the Autoloader Wizard (Map Vault Folders) called
Specify Mapping Folder names. If the ipj you are using to Autoload from had
a Workspace called 'Engineering', you can rename 'Designs' to Engineering
and set the Workspace mapping here. For your existing Vaulted files, you can
rename the Designs folder, and the next dataset you load, simply choose the
Engineering folder to map the Workspace to, ignoring the Designs folder
(which is persistently there).

--
Brian Schanen
Product Designer - Data Management
Manufacturing Solutions Division
Autodesk, Inc.
wrote in message news:5167132@discussion.autodesk.com...
Brian,
I could not find a way to rename the Design folder. If I renamed it in
Vault Explorer, Autoloader would always add a new "Design" folder when I ran
it. Can you explain in a little more detail about how to rename the folder?

I don't really want to "Rename" the design folder, I want to map my
workspace to the "Engineering" folder. I already have files existing in the
"Engineering" folder. I don't think I should be even allowed to rename it
since a folder with that name already exists.
Message 7 of 14
karthur1
in reply to: karthur1

Brian,
Sorry, I still can't get it.

The "Specify Mapping Folder Names" button is greyed out. How do I make this available?

"If the ipj you are using to Autoload from had a Workspace called "Engineering", you can......" I am using the single ipj for all my Inventor work. I have a C:\Engineering folder. My ipj and all the other directories are under this. By default the workspace is named "Workspace" in the ipj, I renamed it to "Engineering" and I still can't set the workspace mapping to $\Engineering.

I attached a screen shot below. When I click the "Map Folder", I can only select the "Designs" folder or a subfolder of it. Otherwise the OK button in the Browse for vault folder dialog is not available.
Message 8 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: karthur1

The "Specify Mapping Folders Name" is only available the first time a vault is used. An existing vault already populated with files cannot be changed. You can create a new vault, if this is an option for you, using Vault Manager and then, before doing anything else, use Autoloader to upload your data and on the "Map Folders" screen you should be able to change the folder(s).

Regards,
Bjorn
Message 9 of 14
karthur1
in reply to: karthur1

... you can rename the Designs to Engineering....."

I think I finally got what you were saying here. In Vault 5, you can rename a folder with Vault Explorer (differnet from Vault 4). Now I can temporarly rename my vault folder to "Designs", load my files with the autoloader, then rename it back to "Engineering"....

Thanks.
Message 10 of 14
rankinrj
in reply to: karthur1

I too am in exactly this situation. I have some data to get in to the Vault and all the useful mapping buttons are greyed out. "Designs" being the only folder that you can upload to in an exisitng vault.

I have tried renaming my existing Vault Explorer $\ root folder where all my data is. I called it "Workspace" foolishly thinking that this would be the most persistent and useful name I could give it.

3 hours later it is still chuntering through. I am too scared to kill it.

In hindsight, I would advise anyone that this tool is only useful if you are uploading to a new Vault. If you have an existing Vault, forget it, you cannot do something as simple as Map Workspace to Workspace.

Even worse, as an Englishman I have called my Content Center; Content Centre. Until now this worked fine and was under a folder in Vault call Library.

As much as it pains me, it is safer to use the unstable "Add Project" option within Inventor itself or open the top level file and then Add Files.
Message 11 of 14
karthur1
in reply to: karthur1

If you rename the "Workspace" folder temporarily to "Designs", any data that you have in your workspace will be compared to what is already in vault. If it is already there, it will skip the file. I tried this yesterday on a test vault and it worked like a charm.

If you didn't do this, the autoloader will place a "Designs" folder at the root of your vault and add all the data under it. The data will be duplicated if you have another folder named "Workspace" in vault.

In order to rename the folder in Vault, nothing in the folder can be checked out. That is what I am doing now, checking everything back in so I can rename it.
Message 12 of 14
rankinrj
in reply to: karthur1

I did rename Workspace to Designs and it took about 3 hours for it to come back to me. We have about 6000 files in Vault. so obviously it would vary as it rehashes the path in the database to every file.

One good thing about Vault 5 is that you can now drag and drop folders in the navigation bar. However this doesn't work for library parts. And also it won't let you rename the top level folder (i.e. in my case renaming Library to Libraries) unless all file within are migrated to the latest release of Inventor. Task Scheduler is doing this now. But I will have to manually create all the Content Center folders and then copy the files over manually.
Message 13 of 14
karthur1
in reply to: karthur1

Thats scary if the number of files is directly related to how long it takes to rename a folder. I have close to 50,000 files currently in Vault. According to how long it took you, mine would take over 25 hours to rename!!! Yikes.

Surley not, but we will see.
Message 14 of 14
karthur1
in reply to: karthur1

I just tried the Drag-drop thing. Pretty nice since I don't have to got back to Inventor to open the file. It puts the local copy at C:\Documents and Settings\KArthur.NTSERVER\Local Settings\Temp\7c880142-1d0a-4ba6-accc-272f11a0828d....

Yuk!!

I prefer to right click on the filename in Vault Explorer then chose edit.

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