Vault General Discussion

Vault General Discussion

Reply
*Expert Elite*
scottmoyse
Posts: 1,675
Registered: ‎06-10-2009
Message 1 of 14 (723 Views)

Original Create Date (Date Only)

723 Views, 13 Replies
07-31-2011 09:04 PM

I am trying to get Vault to map the 'Original Create Date' property to the create date in my Autocad Title block. I have sucessfully mapped it, but it contains the time as well as the date. This isnt acceptable.

 

I can see through the, new for 2012, Revision table settings, that you have access to the 'Original Create Date (Date Only)' property. However, these **** (Date Only) type properties don't exist in the property definition. So i can't map a (Date Only) property to my autocad title block.

 

What i don't understand is Brian Schanen's blog post suggests otherwise. http://underthehood-autodesk.typepad.com/blog/2010/04/new-vault-properties-for-title-block-mapping.h... Sure its an Inventor drawing he is using, but all the documentation suggests ultimately (once the title block is indexed in the ADMS) control of the autocad and inventor title blocks are virtually the same. 

 

As you can see in this picture below, somehow the 'Original Create Date' has had its time stamp stripped off between the Vault property grid and the Inventor title block:

 

Capture.JPG

The question is: Am I missing something? or is this more Autodesk Blog trickery? Given Brian is a bit of a Ledge... I must be missing something!!??!

 

Please help.

 

Cheers

 

Scott

Cheers
Scott Moyse

Please use Mark Solutions!.Accept as Solution &Give Kudos!Kudos to further enhance the value of these forums. Cheers!


   

Product Support
Richard.Rankin
Posts: 134
Registered: ‎03-25-2010
Message 2 of 14 (702 Views)

Re: Original Create Date (Date Only)

08-01-2011 06:28 AM in reply to: scottmoyse

Hi Scott,

 

I am escalating this to a 1:1 case as I believe that this is a new issue.

 

 

 

 



Richard Rankin
Data Management Support Specialist
Autodesk Support
Autodesk, Inc.

*Expert Elite*
scottmoyse
Posts: 1,675
Registered: ‎06-10-2009
Message 3 of 14 (687 Views)

Re: Original Create Date (Date Only)

08-01-2011 01:30 PM in reply to: Richard.Rankin

ok ,great in the meantime we will carry on the old school way.

Cheers
Scott Moyse

Please use Mark Solutions!.Accept as Solution &Give Kudos!Kudos to further enhance the value of these forums. Cheers!


   

Contributor
dlconsulting
Posts: 20
Registered: ‎09-13-2007
Message 4 of 14 (607 Views)

Re: Original Create Date (Date Only)

02-25-2012 09:31 PM in reply to: scottmoyse

Hi Scott,

 

Did you ever get an answer to this question of date formatting?  I just discovered this issue kind of at the 11th hour on a big project, and none of the work-arounds are very pretty.  The "date only" property would be an acceptable answer (although frankly more formatting flexibility of dates in mappings would be a better answer.

 

Thanks for any further insight you might have!

 

Dan

*Expert Elite*
scottmoyse
Posts: 1,675
Registered: ‎06-10-2009
Message 5 of 14 (605 Views)

Re: Original Create Date (Date Only)

02-25-2012 09:45 PM in reply to: scottmoyse
Dan

To be honest after the post I haven't done a thing with trying to sort out integrating autocad into vault. So other than the default mappings I haven't done a thing. I was lead to believe this would be fixed for vault 2012 update 1, but I haven't verified if it has been. if you have that update and it doesn't work then I'm mystified as to why this hugely important part of the title block and revision history table hasn't been fixed via a hot fix. Based on some of the vault teams recent decisions on what's a 'priority for the end users' I wouldn't be surprised.

I'm sorry I can't be of more help. I will try and make time to test it on the 2013 beta but I won't be able to reply with the result I'm afraid.

Cheers

Scott
Cheers
Scott Moyse

Please use Mark Solutions!.Accept as Solution &Give Kudos!Kudos to further enhance the value of these forums. Cheers!


   

Contributor
dlconsulting
Posts: 20
Registered: ‎09-13-2007
Message 6 of 14 (603 Views)

Re: Original Create Date (Date Only)

02-25-2012 09:54 PM in reply to: scottmoyse

Thanks for the fast reply.

 

I don't have Update 1 (somehow I nissed that), but looking through the read-me, it's not mentioned in the list of issues addressed.

 

Given the hour, I don't trust myself to install the update tonight, but will try it in the AM.

 

Question: I'm sure that Vault supports alternative date/time formats for different geographies.  a) do you know where the configuration for that is located and b) any chance one might be able to force an alternative default date display from that vantage?

 

Dan

*Expert Elite*
scottmoyse
Posts: 1,675
Registered: ‎06-10-2009
Message 7 of 14 (597 Views)

Re: Original Create Date (Date Only)

02-26-2012 12:25 AM in reply to: scottmoyse
I suspect it takes the format from the operating system.
Cheers
Scott Moyse

Please use Mark Solutions!.Accept as Solution &Give Kudos!Kudos to further enhance the value of these forums. Cheers!


   

Contributor
commonsensesrl
Posts: 12
Registered: ‎11-02-2011
Message 8 of 14 (547 Views)

Re: Original Create Date (Date Only)

05-10-2012 05:39 AM in reply to: scottmoyse

Has anyone found a solution for this issue? Is there a way to have only the Date information without the hour?

 

Thanks

 

Regards

*Expert Elite*
scottmoyse
Posts: 1,675
Registered: ‎06-10-2009
Message 9 of 14 (538 Views)

Re: Original Create Date (Date Only)

05-10-2012 01:49 PM in reply to: commonsensesrl

It was meant to be fixed... Richard have you got any news on this?

Cheers
Scott Moyse

Please use Mark Solutions!.Accept as Solution &Give Kudos!Kudos to further enhance the value of these forums. Cheers!


   

Product Support
Richard.Rankin
Posts: 134
Registered: ‎03-25-2010
Message 10 of 14 (513 Views)

Re: Original Create Date (Date Only)

05-15-2012 01:33 AM in reply to: scottmoyse

Hi All,

 

When this functionality was implemented it was intended to primarily benefit Inventor users. But then it was seen that it could be useful for AutoCAD users as well. However, AutoCAD does appear to behave slightly differently.

 

The information sent from the Vault Server to the CAD Application contains the DATE & TIME. Inventor has the ability to remove the TIME information because it supports data type = DATE, but AutoCAD does not. AutoCAD will display the full text as it receives it in data type = TEXT. The safest way to do implement this is to add the same functionality in AutoCAD in a future release. Until then, there is no easy to use way have the Orginal Create Date (with no time) written back to AutoCAD.

 

Reading through this forum thread it would seem that there is a misleading statement from Autodesk suggesting that AutoCAD should behave exactly the same way as Inventor. I have not been able to find this so far (Brians blog posting mentions neither AutoCAD nor Inventor specifically, its just the example is Inventor), so if you could point me to where it states this, I can see if I can get the information corrected to hopefully reflect reality, avoid misinterpretation and be as transparent as possible.

 

Many Thanks

 

Richard



Richard Rankin
Data Management Support Specialist
Autodesk Support
Autodesk, Inc.

Post to the Community

Have questions about Autodesk products? Ask the community.

New Post
Need installation help?

Start with some of our most frequented solutions or visit the Installation and Licensing Forum to get help installing your software.

Announcements
New button for Platinum & Gold Subscription customers
Gold & Platinum Subscription customers can alert Autodesk if they require assistance with their forum post

Manufacturing Community
The Manufacturing Community provides additional access to tips, tutorials, blogs and networking with peers.