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Nuances of storing DesignData for two localizations of Inventor in Vault

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Maxim-CADman77
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Nuances of storing DesignData for two localizations of Inventor in Vault

If you are reading this you probably do use Autodesk Vault for storing Design Files and would agree with idea to store Design Data there as well.

Almost all Vault users I know do agree that "Enforce unique filenames" option should be ON.

 

Here I want to discuss possible ways of keeping Design Data for more than one localization of Inventor in Vault.

 

The problem is Design Data  files for different localization do use same filenames (different sub-dfolders):

Examples are:

.../Cable & Harness/<LOCAL>/Cable&HarnessDefaultLibrary.iwl

.../Cable & Harness/<LOCAL>/Harness.iam

.../Tube & Pipe/<LOCAL>/piping runs.iam

.../XLS/<LOCAL>/Thread.xls

.../XLS/<LOCAL>/Clearance.xls

(the list is probably incomplete)

 

Where <LOCAL> is name of sub-folder:

"en-US"

"ru-RU"

etc...

Before diving in the problem I hoped it would be easy to solve it with with Vault shortcuts but it seems not the proper way.

 

Of course I can generate an idea for Inventor team to use different (localization-dependant) filenames for DesignData but I'm interested in workaround that could be implemented today.

 

The only option till now is manual copying updated files to corresponding working sub-folders (while don't have dublicates inside Vault at all).

 

Any ideas?

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cbenner
in reply to: Maxim-CADman77

I'm not sure I understand why you would have multiple instances of any of those files.  I don't know about cable & harness, but i know that when I start a new Tube & Pipe assembly, Inventor uses Piping Runs.iam as a template, and creates a NEW file from it for each job.  As it is being created I am prompted for a file name, so I can add the job number as a prefix to avoid any duplication.  I just did a search in my Vault and after 6 years of Tube & Pipe the only copy of Piping Runs.iam in my vault is in the Design Data folder.

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Maxim-CADman77
in reply to: cbenner

I mean we are global company and our users do use more than one Inventor
localization (English, Russian etc).

I guess each Inventor localization uses template from corresponding
sub-folder.
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ryan
in reply to: Maxim-CADman77

Nowadays I recommend my clients just put their Templates and Design Data outside the vault.   It's not that I'm opposed to keeping them there and in the past this was my "standard" setup but I found that if the templates/styles were changed by the CAD Admin, getting everyone updated was just a hassle - ditto for one you upgraded to a newer release and needed to migrate all these files.  Generally speaking, customers aren't needing to track revision and history on templates in most cases.  Workspace Sync in vault pro wasn't the answer either since it only deals with files already in your local workspace but doesn't account for new files added to vault for which you haven't yet got a local copy (however, I did build a custom app for 2 customers based on Vault Mirror that would pull down only certain directories (templates) on each login via a script.

 

I know tihs doesn't answer your question but just gives another perspective.

 

Ryan Small
National Team Leader, Data Management and Software Development
SolidCAD, a Cansel Company (an Autodesk Platinum Partner)
www.solidcad.ca
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Maxim-CADman77
in reply to: ryan

Thank you for the reply.

For me templates are another story. Unlike DesignData all Inventor
localizations use same templates (at least in Inventor 2014). Thus
there is no problem to store templates in Vault.

I agree with you that process should be organized so that templates and
DesignData be present in one place but I still think their originals
should be at Vault.

In our case users in most populated workspace required to use same
corporate IPJ with special folder paths set to working copies
(workplace's fileserver).

That makes work of CAD manager quite easy: when we need changes he (me)
just check out files and make changes and then just check changed files
back to make sure history is preserved.

Unfortunately there are users in several other workplaces. They can't
use that same IPJ project. They do use modified edition of the project
(main difference - paths of special folders).

And yes - for those other-workplace users we are also working on
PowerShell script for downloading particular vault-folder.

You found it useful to execute the operation on log in ... well ... I'd
rather execute it on regular basis ... let say daily (in case some users
have long periods of work without Vault connection).

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