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n.saremba
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Re: New Hotfixes Available

12-19-2012 05:56 AM in reply to: JohnHuber

Hello,

 

did anybody listen to the Readme?
http://images.autodesk.com/adsk/files/readme_vault2012_update2.htm

1. Client installation

2. Server Update2 Installation

3. Database Update

4. Rebuild Search Indexes

 

ok, we have done, and then?

 

Summary of Issues Addressed

Enable Purge:  ...Before enabling Purge on existing vaults, it is strongly recommended to run Autodesk Reference Repair Utility on those vaults and repair any references that are identified by the utility as missing from specific parent file versions.

 

How should this work?

1. The Reference Repair Utility needs approx 2 month to analyse our Vault (700.000 files, 430 GB)

2. We should repair references that will be purged subsequently?

3. Has anybody seen any result of Reference Repair Utility?

 

Example:

Parent_Missing_Ref    M11602110010066N-W.dwg

Parent Version             42

Ref_In_File                  M11602110010066N-W.iam

Matching_Ref_in_Vault ???

Ref_Version                  ???

Latest Version              56

                                                                                                         

Parent_Missing_Ref    M11602110010087N-W.iam

Parent Version             18

Ref_In_File                  M11602220010068N-W.iam

Matching_Ref_in_Vault ???

Ref_Version                  ???

Latest Version               57

 

etc.

This makes definitely no sense?

 

We want to have the exactly workaround for performing Update 2.

In time we have updated our Vault backup on a test server and we have purged it.

After that we have made a overnight job with Reference Repair Utility on one of hundreds assembly groups with the shown results above.

 

Please help, Norbert

 

Norbert Saremba
CAD Manager

IKN GmbH
Ingenieurbuero Kuehlerbau Neustadt, Germany
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mollons
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Message 72 of 100 (639 Views)

Re: New Hotfixes Available

12-19-2012 07:46 AM in reply to: n.saremba

Please see mroe detailed help on the utlity on the WIKI

http://wikihelp.autodesk.com/Vault/enu/Help/Help/0097-Administ97/0190-Referenc209



Scott Mollon
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olearya
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Message 73 of 100 (633 Views)

Re: New Hotfixes Available

12-19-2012 07:56 AM in reply to: mollons

Please note too there is a high level video walkthrough, explaining the repair process under the main Wiki topic here: http://wikihelp.autodesk.com/Vault/enu/Help/Help/0097-Administ97/0190-Referenc209/0210-Walkthro210 



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n.saremba
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Message 74 of 100 (628 Views)

Re: New Hotfixes Available

12-19-2012 08:18 AM in reply to: olearya

I think there you have misunderstood me :smileysad:
It's not about how I run the Repair Reference, but when.
The readme for Update 2, is that it should be executed strictly before the first purging.

Norbert Saremba
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Message 75 of 100 (620 Views)

Re: New Hotfixes Available

12-19-2012 08:36 AM in reply to: n.saremba

Hello,

 

Yes, before you start using Purge, we strongly reommend that you run the Reference Repair Utility and repair any missing references the utility may find.

 

Thanks

Anil Chintamaneni (Autodesk)



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n.saremba
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Message 76 of 100 (613 Views)

Re: New Hotfixes Available

12-19-2012 08:57 AM in reply to: achintam

Has anyone of you an idea what time it will be handled Repair Reference?
1st  The run in our case would be extrapolated 2 months.
2nd The repair would have to be added manually in the list (time?)
3rd  When everything is repaired, then I purge the vault and all that I have repaired for weeks is cleared by the purging?

What is the real reason that Autodesk says it all references necessarily be repaired before the purging?
Can someone explain to me? We have no logical explanation for it.

Norbert Saremba
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IKN GmbH
Ingenieurbuero Kuehlerbau Neustadt, Germany
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Message 77 of 100 (597 Views)

Re: New Hotfixes Available

12-19-2012 01:25 PM in reply to: n.saremba

As described in the thread the issue we are resolving relates to missing references which could eventually become incorrectly eligible for purge.

 

If you continue to purge without identifying and repairing these missing references you risk purging required files. This is why we advise completing the repair process first.

 

In terms of the time taken to repair,  if you have multiple vaults you can repair files that have missing references in one vault first, turn on Purge on that vault and move on to next vault.  You can also speed up the scanning process by running the Reference Repair Utility on multiple Client workstations and scanning different folders at the same time.  Please note that with this approach, you will essentially be tying up each machine for the time taken to run that scan and consume a license in the case of “paid for” versions.



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Message 78 of 100 (585 Views)

Re: New Hotfixes Available

12-20-2012 02:47 AM in reply to: n.saremba

Thank you, we looked at the video.
We hope that no one has such a vault which you have presented. Our Vault is configured on Unique Filenames.

The recent scans run on all errors. We obtain any XML file.

Incidentally, this is unreasonable workaround anyone.

 

That has shown us that we will do that in no case, too.
We will synchronize the local file store (with Get Latest) then we will consider purging after Update 2 on the server.

Norbert Saremba
CAD Manager

IKN GmbH
Ingenieurbuero Kuehlerbau Neustadt, Germany
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Message 79 of 100 (579 Views)

Re: New Hotfixes Available

12-20-2012 03:47 AM in reply to: n.saremba

Am I correct in thinking that the issue still exists for those of us using Vault 2011?

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Message 80 of 100 (550 Views)

Re: New Hotfixes Available

12-21-2012 06:56 AM in reply to: n.saremba

We are on Vault 2012 Collaboration.  The help wiki says that Vault workgroup and above will automatically repair dangling references under certain conditions and that a manual repair process will be required for files that do not meet those requirements. 

 

How do I know if the automatic repair was successful?

 

How do I know if I need to run the manual repair utility?

 

How do I know when I can enable purge?




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