Why use Vault or what does it give me?

[Anonymous]

I've briefly looked over the product info on vault and am left wondering
what does it do?
My company is a multi decipline AEC firm with multiple locations.
In looking at the Vault requirements I think I need to setup a server, IIS
and SQL.
Thats alot of work just to try and figure out what the software does.
We use plain old AutoCAD and Land Desktop on subscription.

What does Vault do for me?

--
Dave

[Anonymous]

David,

Vault provides several features the basics are:
-Version management
-Searchability on properties
-Accountability
-Who has a file checked out
-Who made specific changes
-To get a full list of the features I would suggest that you run through the
tutorials

Installation is really quite simple. Install IIS on your Windows box then
install Vault. For production we recommend that you have an independant
server but for evaluation you can easily install this on your workstation.

Ross


"David Allen" wrote in message
news:5140990@discussion.autodesk.com...
I've briefly looked over the product info on vault and am left wondering
what does it do?
My company is a multi decipline AEC firm with multiple locations.
In looking at the Vault requirements I think I need to setup a server, IIS
and SQL.
Thats alot of work just to try and figure out what the software does.
We use plain old AutoCAD and Land Desktop on subscription.

What does Vault do for me?

--
Dave

[Anonymous]

I am trying to figure out if I should run through the tutorials first.
Most of the time in AEC we don't care about version management.
To see who has the file checked out there is the whohas function.
Whats the interface? Is there some screen shots of the user experience?
Is this only for a LAN or is there benifits for a WAN?
Is the file structure in a database or the normal windows file structure?

What about licensing? If I have 50 seats of AutoCAD on subscription
do I have 50 seats of Vault? Is my AutoCAD seats going to equal
vault seats for as long as I am on subscription or am I going to have to
purchase vault seats in a few years after I am hooked?

--
Dave

"Ross Tanner (Autodesk)" wrote in message
news:5141164@discussion.autodesk.com...
David,

Vault provides several features the basics are:
-Version management
-Searchability on properties
-Accountability
-Who has a file checked out
-Who made specific changes
-To get a full list of the features I would suggest that you run through the
tutorials

Installation is really quite simple. Install IIS on your Windows box then
install Vault. For production we recommend that you have an independant
server but for evaluation you can easily install this on your workstation.

Ross


"David Allen" wrote in message
news:5140990@discussion.autodesk.com...
I've briefly looked over the product info on vault and am left wondering
what does it do?
My company is a multi decipline AEC firm with multiple locations.
In looking at the Vault requirements I think I need to setup a server, IIS
and SQL.
Thats alot of work just to try and figure out what the software does.
We use plain old AutoCAD and Land Desktop on subscription.

What does Vault do for me?

--
Dave

[Anonymous]

before going too far, you might want to read my post titled
"deny ability to delete files for Vault Editor permission roles" from a
couple of days ago.

basically, any person who has permissions to add content to, and
edit content within Vault, also has the ability to delete files from Vault.

kinda like how Microsoft gave everybody a chopped version of their Office
product away for free (forget the name of that software), but if you
wanted to go with what the rest of the world was using - then you had to
pay extra for the full version of their Office product.

To say they least, we have a few unhappy campers at my place of business
this past week.

Just my 0.02 cents worth.

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:22:49 +0000, David Allen wrote:

> I've briefly looked over the product info on vault and am left wondering
> what does it do?
> My company is a multi decipline AEC firm with multiple locations. In
> looking at the Vault requirements I think I need to setup a server, IIS
> and SQL.
> Thats alot of work just to try and figure out what the software does. We
> use plain old AutoCAD and Land Desktop on subscription.
>
> What does Vault do for me?

[Anonymous]

I see what you mean about vault being the light version.
But still I'm not convinced of what benifit it can provide me.

--
Dave

"ba" wrote in message
news:5141607@discussion.autodesk.com...
before going too far, you might want to read my post titled
"deny ability to delete files for Vault Editor permission roles" from a
couple of days ago.

basically, any person who has permissions to add content to, and
edit content within Vault, also has the ability to delete files from Vault.

kinda like how Microsoft gave everybody a chopped version of their Office
product away for free (forget the name of that software), but if you
wanted to go with what the rest of the world was using - then you had to
pay extra for the full version of their Office product.

To say they least, we have a few unhappy campers at my place of business
this past week.

Just my 0.02 cents worth.

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:22:49 +0000, David Allen wrote:

> I've briefly looked over the product info on vault and am left wondering
> what does it do?
> My company is a multi decipline AEC firm with multiple locations. In
> looking at the Vault requirements I think I need to setup a server, IIS
> and SQL.
> Thats alot of work just to try and figure out what the software does. We
> use plain old AutoCAD and Land Desktop on subscription.
>
> What does Vault do for me?

[Anonymous]

Light version: I think he is referring to product stream.
Vault is a data management tool.
We use it for Inventor files, not really for our AutoCAD files. (But that because we primarily use inventor and not AutoCAD or MDT to that level, if that makes sense?)
I’m not sure what the Land program is.
I would recommend you speak to a reseller, and make sure they demonstrate your type of work, not just the flashy bits.

[Anonymous]

David,

Today we do not have a Land Desktop client. However the files can still be
manually checked in/out using the Vault Explorer (thick client) We are
working on improving this workflow. The interface is loosly modeled after
MS Outlook and is quite user friendly. The Vault clients function quite
well over a WAN or VPN with the same performance as accessing a remote
share. Again, we are working on solutions that will provide significant
benefits for remote site access. We use a traditional structure with a db
for metadata and a separate file store that is managed by the server. The
users do not have direct access to the file store.

Each seat of AutoCAD on subscription provides an equal seat of Vault; you
would have 50 seats of Vault to match your 50 seats of subscription AutoCAD.
I am unaware of any intention to sell Vault. We do sell a manufacturing
specific vertical that is called Productstream this is not suitable for your
AEC environment.

As for being "hooked" if for any reason that you chose not to use Vault any
further you can simply copy all the files out and access them as you had
prior to using Vault. You will never be trapped in Vault.

As for the value that Vault can provide you. I would recommend a brief
evaluation. If you have a test box to use that would be ideal if not you
could use a virtual environment. VMWare or Virtual PC are the two that I
have used, both work great for this purpose. In my earlier post I mentioned
installing IIS, this is only required if you wish to support additional
users. In a test environment it is often sufficient to have the client and
server on the same box. If this is your goal the only requirement is a
qualifying Autodesk CAD application like AutoCAD.

Hope this helps,
Ross

"David Allen" wrote in message
news:5141369@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am trying to figure out if I should run through the tutorials first.
Most of the time in AEC we don't care about version management.
To see who has the file checked out there is the whohas function.
Whats the interface? Is there some screen shots of the user experience?
Is this only for a LAN or is there benifits for a WAN?
Is the file structure in a database or the normal windows file structure?

What about licensing? If I have 50 seats of AutoCAD on subscription
do I have 50 seats of Vault? Is my AutoCAD seats going to equal
vault seats for as long as I am on subscription or am I going to have to
purchase vault seats in a few years after I am hooked?

--
Dave

"Ross Tanner (Autodesk)" wrote in message
news:5141164@discussion.autodesk.com...
David,

Vault provides several features the basics are:
-Version management
-Searchability on properties
-Accountability
-Who has a file checked out
-Who made specific changes
-To get a full list of the features I would suggest that you run through the
tutorials

Installation is really quite simple. Install IIS on your Windows box then
install Vault. For production we recommend that you have an independant
server but for evaluation you can easily install this on your workstation.

Ross


"David Allen" wrote in message
news:5140990@discussion.autodesk.com...
I've briefly looked over the product info on vault and am left wondering
what does it do?
My company is a multi decipline AEC firm with multiple locations.
In looking at the Vault requirements I think I need to setup a server, IIS
and SQL.
Thats alot of work just to try and figure out what the software does.
We use plain old AutoCAD and Land Desktop on subscription.

What does Vault do for me?

--
Dave

[Anonymous]

so to generalize the product its a drawing check in/out system.
Whats the timeline for performance increases for remote shares?
I don't care about the check in/out so much as I need a solution for
multiple offices working on one project.

--
Dave

"Ross Tanner (Autodesk)" wrote in message
news:5142806@discussion.autodesk.com...
David,

Today we do not have a Land Desktop client. However the files can still be
manually checked in/out using the Vault Explorer (thick client) We are
working on improving this workflow. The interface is loosly modeled after
MS Outlook and is quite user friendly. The Vault clients function quite
well over a WAN or VPN with the same performance as accessing a remote
share. Again, we are working on solutions that will provide significant
benefits for remote site access. We use a traditional structure with a db
for metadata and a separate file store that is managed by the server. The
users do not have direct access to the file store.

Each seat of AutoCAD on subscription provides an equal seat of Vault; you
would have 50 seats of Vault to match your 50 seats of subscription AutoCAD.
I am unaware of any intention to sell Vault. We do sell a manufacturing
specific vertical that is called Productstream this is not suitable for your
AEC environment.

As for being "hooked" if for any reason that you chose not to use Vault any
further you can simply copy all the files out and access them as you had
prior to using Vault. You will never be trapped in Vault.

As for the value that Vault can provide you. I would recommend a brief
evaluation. If you have a test box to use that would be ideal if not you
could use a virtual environment. VMWare or Virtual PC are the two that I
have used, both work great for this purpose. In my earlier post I mentioned
installing IIS, this is only required if you wish to support additional
users. In a test environment it is often sufficient to have the client and
server on the same box. If this is your goal the only requirement is a
qualifying Autodesk CAD application like AutoCAD.

Hope this helps,
Ross

"David Allen" wrote in message
news:5141369@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am trying to figure out if I should run through the tutorials first.
Most of the time in AEC we don't care about version management.
To see who has the file checked out there is the whohas function.
Whats the interface? Is there some screen shots of the user experience?
Is this only for a LAN or is there benifits for a WAN?
Is the file structure in a database or the normal windows file structure?

What about licensing? If I have 50 seats of AutoCAD on subscription
do I have 50 seats of Vault? Is my AutoCAD seats going to equal
vault seats for as long as I am on subscription or am I going to have to
purchase vault seats in a few years after I am hooked?

--
Dave

"Ross Tanner (Autodesk)" wrote in message
news:5141164@discussion.autodesk.com...
David,

Vault provides several features the basics are:
-Version management
-Searchability on properties
-Accountability
-Who has a file checked out
-Who made specific changes
-To get a full list of the features I would suggest that you run through the
tutorials

Installation is really quite simple. Install IIS on your Windows box then
install Vault. For production we recommend that you have an independant
server but for evaluation you can easily install this on your workstation.

Ross


"David Allen" wrote in message
news:5140990@discussion.autodesk.com...
I've briefly looked over the product info on vault and am left wondering
what does it do?
My company is a multi decipline AEC firm with multiple locations.
In looking at the Vault requirements I think I need to setup a server, IIS
and SQL.
Thats alot of work just to try and figure out what the software does.
We use plain old AutoCAD and Land Desktop on subscription.

What does Vault do for me?

--
Dave