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deflections/stress due to self weight

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04-20-2012 07:19 AM

hello

 

suppose there is a large beam say 80 ft cantilivered beam rectangular c/s.

so asim doesnt output results beacuse of the loading caused only by self weight right?

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Re: deflections/stress due to self weight

04-20-2012 08:14 AM in reply to: madg1

Wrong. The beam has weight, and causes stress and displacement, if the material properties include the mass density and gravity ti turned on.

 

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Re: deflections/stress due to self weight

04-20-2012 08:30 AM in reply to: madg1

wow...I somehow thought that gravitaional force will be added.....we need to turn it on.....thats why i see less stress values......thanks john...

 

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Re: deflections/stress due to self weight

04-20-2012 08:58 AM in reply to: INACTIVE_AstroJohn

John one more question

 

Say I got a same cantilevered rectangular c/s beam solid meshed say with tet elements.

say side A is fixed and side B is free.

 

suppose on the top of side B of the cantileverd ,solid meshed beam, i would create a beam element ( yes i will create X to avoid balljoint) and give rectangular section properties.Its a dummy element and I want to give a mass property of my own, not the one calculated by software.Is there an accepted way to this?

 

What I did was, make the density of the Beam element Zero   and add a distributed load value of my required weight.

 

I did that and I see some weird number in the weight of the overall structure.So I am wondering if there is an accepted way to do that?

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Re: deflections/stress due to self weight

04-20-2012 11:31 AM in reply to: madg1

Hi,

 

I do not know how you are getting the weight of the overall structure ("I see some weird number in the weight"), but a distributed load is obviously not a weight. So if you are using the "Analysis > Analysis > Weight and Center of Gravity", the calculated weight will not include the "weight" that you simulated using the distributed load.

 

If you sum the reaction forces in the vertical direction, they should equal the weight of the solid elements plus the distributed load applied to the beam elements.

 

The other way to add weight to a model is with the "Setup > Loads > Weight" command. :smileyhappy:

 

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John Holtz, P.E.
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Re: deflections/stress due to self weight

04-20-2012 12:01 PM in reply to: INACTIVE_AstroJohn

yes you are right...

 

I theroized that distributed load in global Z direction as weight of the part if you can change the value of density of the part to zero ...obvisouly you can get that as reaction force....:smileyvery-happy::smileyhappy:

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