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What might be reason for Check value not being zero

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Message 1 of 11
nany717
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What might be reason for Check value not being zero

Hi

 

I have modeled a simple container configuration, in which i have to test for the reactions when subjected to accelerations. When I solve the model, i can see the sum of reactions is not equal to the sum of forces. 

 

What might be the reasons for this mismatch !? can someone point out, where I went wrong !

 

I have attached the model for reference. 

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Message 2 of 11
Artur.Kosakowski
in reply to: nany717

Ignored instability due to wrong material properties.

 

zero material.PNG

 

BTW: check if RECT_1 section is defined correctly (values should be in mm or cm)?

 

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Message 3 of 11
nany717
in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

Yes Artur, 

 

I intentionally created a dummy material without any properties, or very very less values for all the properties. 

 

How else can I model a container (of 25 ton weight) sitting on beams (HEB300), which are fastened to the deck/floor by welding ? 

 

The problem arises only with Y+/Y- acceleration cases, for the rest of the cases, it is giving the results as expected. Also, when I change the support spring stiffness even by 1kN/m value, the error is getting bigger and bigger. Please guide. 

Message 4 of 11
Artur.Kosakowski
in reply to: nany717

As a nodal mass in its center of gravity with rigid links to connect it to the beams?

 

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Artur Kosakowski
Message 5 of 11
nany717
in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

Yes, like that...

Message 6 of 11
nany717
in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

Also, Artur

Is there any problem in using Spring supports instead of Pinned/Fixed. I am seeing some odd reactions.

Will there be any internal reactions generated because of the springs ?!
Message 7 of 11
Artur.Kosakowski
in reply to: nany717

Should not be. Any instability reported?



Artur Kosakowski
Message 8 of 11
nany717
in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

No instability reported. 

 

I have attached the file. 

 

See case2: HP Pump Weight. Check the reactions in Y direction. Strange!

 

This is the dead weight sitting on two beams, from your earlier suggestions, I am using good material properties.

Message 9 of 11
Artur.Kosakowski
in reply to: nany717

I'd define the rigid link in a different way.

 

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Artur Kosakowski
Message 10 of 11
nany717
in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

I can see that the unwanted reactions got reduced.

 

but still, why am I getting those reaction forces in Y when I am applying Z acceleration on added mass ?!

 

 asd.jpg

Message 11 of 11
Artur.Kosakowski
in reply to: nany717

Due to the small bending of dummy bars at the locations with no rigid links which could not be defined as you already defined other rigid links there. If this is a concern you can replace one group of them with rigid bar elements.

 

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Artur Kosakowski

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