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Message 1 of 20
HoshangMustafa
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Wall Model

Hi

 

Please find the attached file.

 

How can I model this wall with ARSA?

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Message 2 of 20
jclcereno
in reply to: HoshangMustafa

You can model it via contours...

 

But robot seem to have problems with slanted panels. not about analysis but on the display, sometimes it has angles that makes the panels seem to float even if they are really attached to it.

 

Image below is the Slanted panel I modelled:

Slanted Wall_Slab.PNG

 

Zooming in, you can see it has display bugs, but meshing seems fine here:

Zoomed in raised slanted Panel.PNG

Message 3 of 20
Rafal.Gaweda
in reply to: jclcereno

One corner of panel must be slightly out of panel plane.


Rafal Gaweda
Message 4 of 20

Hi Rafal

 

I'm sorry. I meant modelling the vertical part and the slanted part of the wall together so that I can get design results (reinforcement, etc) for both together.

 

Please check the attached file in the first post.

 

I have other questions about this problem when the modelling is completed.

Message 5 of 20

My answer was to Jade post.

To your screen shot:
Reinforcement results should be the same if you create such wall from 1 or 2 panels



Rafal Gaweda
Message 6 of 20

Hi Rafal

 

Reinforcement results should be the same if you create such wall from 1 or 2 panels

 

How can the vertical and slanted part of the wall be modelled from 1 panel?

Message 7 of 20

Draw "vertical" edge polyline and Extrude it.


Rafal Gaweda
Message 8 of 20

Hi Rafal

 

Thank you.

 

Draw "vertical" edge polyline and Extrude it.

 

I tried modelling it from a polyline following the border points of the wall. It worked. Please find the attached file.

 

I followed your procedure using:

1-Extrude

2-Extrude along polyline

3-Object modification

But I couldn't model it. Please step by step instruct me how this can be done?

 

When exporting (my model) to Required Reinforcement of Slabs/Walls, it will displayed with (vertical and slanted part)

When exporting my model to Wall Design module, it will be appeared with a vertical wall.

 

In the Drawing, it's displayed as a vertical wall.

 

Isn't it a bug?

 

I wish this be solved, because I wish the best for ARSA.

Message 9 of 20

Hi Rafal

 

After all:

 

1- Can this vertical and slant wall support the fllor above (on one edge)?

2- If not, how can this wall be modelleled and how it can be supported?

Message 10 of 20

You may draw a polyline with vertical and inclined parts and extrude it horizontally to create a panel but I would suggest that you just create two panels ( a vertical one and an inclined one) instead. In this way you it will be easier for you to control meshing.

 

If you find your post answered press the Accept as Solution button please. This will help other users to find solutions much faster. Thank you.



Artur Kosakowski
Message 11 of 20

Hi Artur

 

 

Thank you very much. Two panels may solve many things.

1- Can this vertical and slant wall support the fllor above (on one edge)?

2- If not, how can this wall be modelleled and how it can be supported?

Message 12 of 20


1- Can this vertical and slant wall support the fllor above (on one edge)?

Yes, if you create coherent meshes.

 

If you find your post answered press the Accept as Solution button please. This will help other users to find solutions much faster. Thank you.

 

 



Artur Kosakowski
Message 13 of 20

Hi Artur

 

Yes, if you create coherent meshes.

 

I'm sorry, do you mean the attached dialog?

Message 14 of 20

Assuming you have 3 panels (vertical, slanting and horizontal) you should create meshes in such a way that they are coherent (have common nodes) at their common edges. For the dialog you attached I'd recommend switching on the iterative adjustment of meshes.

 

If you find your post answered press the Accept as Solution button please. This will help other users to find solutions much faster. Thank you.



Artur Kosakowski
Message 15 of 20

Hi Artur

 

Please find the attached file.

I've encountered these errors. (incoheerent data, unknown errors). What should I do to overcome these errors?

Message 16 of 20

If you switched on the correction of deflections for these panels try to switch if off. This option makes sense for horizontal slabs only.

 

If you find your post answered press the Accept as Solution button please. This will help other users to find solutions much faster. Thank you.



Artur Kosakowski
Message 17 of 20

Hi

 

Please find the attached file.

 

If you mean Reinforcement correction, this option is already unchecked.

Message 18 of 20

Attach the model please.



Artur Kosakowski
Message 19 of 20

Hi Artur

 

Thank you.

 

Here you are the file, please.

 

http://we.tl/BStu22MKBo

Message 20 of 20

Is it the right model? I can't see any issue with calculations of reinforcement for these panels.

 

reinforcement calculations.PNG



Artur Kosakowski

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