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Pile with elastic propreties

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Message 1 of 27
rodainnajjar1229
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Pile with elastic propreties

dear sir
i have to define raft with piles foundation.  i defined raft with th=1000mm kz=1250 Kn/m3 ((according per soil report )
but i dont what value kx.ky .kz for pile 600 mm l=4m
 kindly find attached pictures
best regards

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Message 2 of 27

Soil spring defined on a node is the spring constant from your soil report, converted to a kN/m value by using the area of the pile that contacts the soil (either on the pile shaft or on the base).
Message 3 of 27
athurD
in reply to: tony.ridley

Thanx tony.

You can send  for specific examples.

thax.

Message 4 of 27

Good morning,

 

For pile foundations I use Elastic ground for bars, to simulate horizontal ground support. See attachment.

You can calculate Ky and Kz according to the theory of menard.Doc1.png.

 

Best regards, 

A&IKWANT

adviseurs & ingenieurs

 

Dennis van Dijk

Structural engineer

Kind regards,
A&I│KWANT
adviseurs & ingenieurs

Dennis van Dijk
Structural engineer
www.ibkwant.nl
Message 5 of 27
athurD
in reply to: DennisVDijk

Thax you.

You can shared theory of menard.

Pleas.................

Message 6 of 27

dear sir

kindly find attached file
best regards

Message 7 of 27
athurD
in reply to: DennisVDijk

Please......

Message 8 of 27
DennisVDijk
in reply to: athurD

Good morning,

 

For kz you can aply the same value as under the raft foundation.

For Ky and Kx you can use the formula according to Menard, see attachment.

I traslate the document from Dutch to English, some words migth not be correct but the formula is the same.

If you want to know more about this theory you can find it on the internet. 

 

I hope this would help.  

 

Best regards, 

A&IKWANT

adviseurs & ingenieurs

 

Dennis van Dijk

Structural engineer

Kind regards,
A&I│KWANT
adviseurs & ingenieurs

Dennis van Dijk
Structural engineer
www.ibkwant.nl
Message 9 of 27
athurD
in reply to: DennisVDijk

Thax Dennisveendam.

So you can given examples???

Thank you.

 

Message 10 of 27
DennisVDijk
in reply to: athurD

Hello,

 

Attached you find an example of the bridge i made a screenshot of.

In this case there where two pile in one row and i aplleid two different Ky and Kx values because in this case the lower layer was moch stiffer. You can put de Menard formula in a spreadsheet and calculed the Kh value (kh = Ky and Kx)

The only parameter you need is qc from your sonding graff.

 

Best regards, 

A&IKWANT

adviseurs & ingenieurs

 

Dennis van Dijk

Structural engineer

  

Kind regards,
A&I│KWANT
adviseurs & ingenieurs

Dennis van Dijk
Structural engineer
www.ibkwant.nl
Message 11 of 27
athurD
in reply to: DennisVDijk

Thank Dennisveendam.

So you can explain coefficient n and d.

Please see picture.

2013-07-15_2303.png

 

 

 

Message 12 of 27
DennisVDijk
in reply to: athurD

Good morning,

 

n =  the number of piles in an row

d = diameter of the pile

 

Best regards, 

A&IKWANT

adviseurs & ingenieurs

 

Dennis van Dijk

Structural engineer

Kind regards,
A&I│KWANT
adviseurs & ingenieurs

Dennis van Dijk
Structural engineer
www.ibkwant.nl
Message 13 of 27
athurD
in reply to: DennisVDijk

Thank Dennisveendam.

You see picture. So n =3 or n=2 ????

Please see picture Attachment.

 
Message 14 of 27
athurD
in reply to: DennisVDijk

Please help ?

Thax

Message 15 of 27
DennisVDijk
in reply to: athurD

AthrD,

 

I wrote an example for one pile that you could aply on your model, see attachment.

You only need to change qc if necessary.

 

Best regards, 

A&IKWANT

adviseurs & ingenieurs

 

Dennis van Dijk

Structural engineer

Kind regards,
A&I│KWANT
adviseurs & ingenieurs

Dennis van Dijk
Structural engineer
www.ibkwant.nl
Message 16 of 27
athurD
in reply to: DennisVDijk

Thank   Dennisveendam .

But Foudation cap pile  of me is 4 pile. 

Kx, Ky = n x d x kh = 4 x 0.6 x 15636 = 37526,4  Please see picture .

right or wrong ?????  thank you

 

 

 

 2012-03-01_1718.png

Message 17 of 27
DennisVDijk
in reply to: athurD

wrong,

 

for Ky and Ky = 9000kPa, you need the elastic value of one pile.

 

Kind regards,
A&I│KWANT
adviseurs & ingenieurs

Dennis van Dijk
Structural engineer
www.ibkwant.nl
Message 18 of 27
athurD
in reply to: DennisVDijk

Thanx

 
But why sheet caculation of you . n = 2. ???
Please see picture .
 
2012-03-01_1810.png
 
Message 19 of 27

thank you for your explaining but i have to put kx ky kz for pile in kn/m

i calculate it in kn/m2 as your explaining  

 how to converte to kn/m

kx (kn/m2) * (diameter)  or what ??

regards

Message 20 of 27
athurD
in reply to: rodainnajjar1229

THank Dennis van Dijk.

I think kx,ky (kN/m3) convert to  kx,ky(kN/m) =  Kx,ky(kN/m^3) * Ac.  With Ac is area of pile.

Thank you. You is nick skype ?? 

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