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bjornhgr
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Registered: ‎09-28-2011

Missing labels in Maps on Bars

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12-20-2011 06:09 AM

Hi.

 

I'm trying to display normal forces in cross bracings in a steel frame structure in a readable way. I want to display an elevation with normal forces and labels on each bar. trying to use the Maps on Bars function I get _some_ of them, but never all of them at once. Why is this so hard, and is there anything I can do to fix it? It's driving me nuts. I've tried zooming in and out, but there are always some forces missing...

 

Thanks

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Rafal.Gaweda
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Re: Missing labels in Maps on Bars

12-21-2011 02:17 AM in reply to: bjornhgr

What about using Labels?

 

HInt below:

 

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bjornhgr
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Re: Missing labels in Maps on Bars

01-18-2012 05:09 AM in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

Hi.

 

This problem was put on hold along with my project before christmas. Now I'm back at it, and the problem remains unsolved. I know about moving labels, but it doesn't help much when several bars meet (attached image). Using text I avoid this, but but it gets real messy (attached image), and it takes a lot of time cleaning it up when I have eight braces.

 

Is there really no solution to this? I just want the maximum value for each bar, graphically displayed for easy reading...

 

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mirko.jurcevic
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Re: Missing labels in Maps on Bars

02-08-2013 03:03 AM in reply to: bjornhgr

Maybe this can help:

I've added additional nodes on bars and Robot displays "labels" (values) in nodes. See image attached.

 

My question: is there any other way to display additional values for diagrams. Let's say that Robot displays diagram value at beggining and the end of the element but I want also to see value in the middle, or at any other place. Is there a way to display additional value without adding a node at that place?

 

Something like when displaying maps for surface elements - there is possible to display value at specific point.

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Rafal.Gaweda
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Re: Missing labels in Maps on Bars

02-08-2013 04:08 AM in reply to: mirko.jurcevic
I've added additional nodes on bars and Robot displays "labels" (values) in nodes. See image attached.

 

My question: is there any other way to display additional values for diagrams. Let's say that Robot displays diagram value at beggining and the end of the element but I want also to see value in the middle, or at any other place. Is there a way to display additional value without adding a node at that place?

 

No. As you mentioned - add nodes.

 

 



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mirko.jurcevic
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Re: Missing labels in Maps on Bars

02-08-2013 04:31 AM in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

That's bad.

And what if I don't know in advance where I'll need to put nodes.

Process would be:

calculate model -> find places where you need additional values -> remember/write down positions of additional nodes -> add nodes -> calculate again -> find out that you missed something -> swear -> add nodes -> calculate again

 

And imagine what if you need half an hour for each calculation.

 

I don't know, there got to be an easier way to do this.

 

And what when I right click to diagram value text and delete it? How can I get it back?

 

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mirko.jurcevic
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Re: Missing labels in Maps on Bars

02-08-2013 04:41 AM in reply to: mirko.jurcevic

I've found out: And what when I right click to diagram value text and delete it? How can I get it back?

 

View -> Descriptions -> Restore Deleted Descriptions

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Rafal.Gaweda
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Re: Missing labels in Maps on Bars

02-08-2013 04:51 AM in reply to: mirko.jurcevic

And what if I don't know in advance where I'll need to put nodes.

 

 

Use Detailed Analysis : http://screencast.com/t/uiKgsVAM0Ewd



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mirko.jurcevic
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Re: Missing labels in Maps on Bars

02-08-2013 05:53 AM in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

Thanks, that's useful! :smileyhappy:

Screen capture takes diagrams+table at the same time, which is good.

But, I don't have that vertical blue bar for reading values.

And, on my sample model, when I insert column in detailed analysis I get wrong direction of load forces.

Look at the images attached.

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Rafal.Gaweda
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Re: Missing labels in Maps on Bars

02-08-2013 06:09 AM in reply to: mirko.jurcevic
And, on my sample model, when I insert column in detailed analysis I get wrong direction of load forces.

 

Thx for reporting. I will registser it for correction.


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