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GabrieleNovembri1027
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Frustrating, plastic hinges

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10-06-2012 02:44 AM

Hi All,

I tried to use the pushover at analysis with frustrating results!. I need to verify a concrete structure of an existing building. It seems not practical to use the plastic hinges in Robot.
It seems that  is mandatory to specify in advance ultimate moment of the reinforced concrete sections. This may be simple for the beams but prohibitive for the columns. The variation of the compression in this case change the ultimate moment of the section. So it seems necessary define different hinges for the columns of every floor and in when the vertical action changes. In the same way considering a direction (for example x) common with lower x should have a plastic hinge different from those with greater x.
I understand also that Max and My and, more generally, the different degrees of freedom, are mutually independent. There is no possibility, therefore, take into account the biaxial moments of columns.
No one has tried to use robots in similar problems? Any suggestions?

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pp2008
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Re: Frustrating, plastic hinges

10-09-2012 02:09 AM in reply to: GabrieleNovembri1027

HI Gabriele,

as it is stated in Help:

Non-linear hinges are treated as independent non-linear connections for each degree of freedom at a selected node. Interaction between different degrees of freedom is ignored.

 

It is limiting very strongly the practical use of this type of analysis:smileysad:

 

Best regards, 



Pawel Pulak
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GabrieleNovembri1027
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Re: Frustrating, plastic hinges

10-09-2012 04:04 AM in reply to: pp2008

Hi Pawel,

thank you for your interest and sincerity. Do you think that in the future these limitations will be overcome?. As you know, today this type of analysis are more widely required by customers.
anyway thanks

 

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pp2008
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Re: Frustrating, plastic hinges

10-09-2012 05:33 AM in reply to: GabrieleNovembri1027

Hi Gabriele,

it is registered on our "to do" list with references to customers' requests concerning this feature. It also contains your :smileyhappy: reference related to this post:

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/Autodesk-Robot-Structural/Plastic-Hinges-Plate-shell/td-p/3384479

 

As concerns implementation I am not entitled to inform about development plans :smileysad:

 

Regards,

 



Pawel Pulak
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GabrieleNovembri1027
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Re: Frustrating, plastic hinges

10-09-2012 07:16 AM in reply to: pp2008

Thanks Pawel,

I will wait confident :smileyhappy:

Gabriele

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