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Scheduling Nested Families

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11-20-2012 09:07 AM

Does anyone know of way to schedule the nested families of a family?  For example I have a panel family that contains connection families for that panel.  The schedule I am looking for would break out the connection families for each panel family.  So panel family WP1 contains the connection familes C1 and C2.  Panel family WP2 contains C1 and C3 and so forth.  Is there anyway to manipulate a schedule to give me this information perhaps with shared parameters?  All families are set to shared and I can get a total connection count for the entire project but need it broken out per panel. 

You can add a Shared Parameter (Text, Instance) to each of the nested Families that would function as an ID for the schedule to filter out the other instances of those families. Add a similar parameter to the host family and link each of the nested parameters to this value. Note that the host family's parameter should only be that same Shared Parameter if you want it to appear in the Schedule as well.

 

Once loaded into the Project, you can select one instance of that Family and enter a text value for that parameter. Then you can create a Schedule and add Filters to exclude all elements that do not contain that specific text value.

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AJA14
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Re: Scheduling Nested Families

11-27-2012 11:21 PM in reply to: cchrisrun

Hi. if you want to be able to schedule the nested family you must declare it as shared.

Open the family you wish to nest, open the family category and parameters, go to the parameters, you will find a parameter called shared and a checkbox which is cleared, check that and you will be able to schedule that nested family. Hope this helps.

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cchrisrun
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Re: Scheduling Nested Families

11-28-2012 06:28 AM in reply to: cchrisrun

Wrong answer, please try again.  This time read the question before responding.  All the families are set to share their parameters.  I want a schedule that will tell me how many nested families are in each family. 

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Re: Scheduling Nested Families

11-28-2012 06:55 AM in reply to: cchrisrun

You can add a Shared Parameter (Text, Instance) to each of the nested Families that would function as an ID for the schedule to filter out the other instances of those families. Add a similar parameter to the host family and link each of the nested parameters to this value. Note that the host family's parameter should only be that same Shared Parameter if you want it to appear in the Schedule as well.

 

Once loaded into the Project, you can select one instance of that Family and enter a text value for that parameter. Then you can create a Schedule and add Filters to exclude all elements that do not contain that specific text value.

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Re: Scheduling Nested Families

11-29-2012 10:30 AM in reply to: CADastrophe

Thank you CADastrophe!  That works and gives me the results in the schedule I was looking for.

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Re: Scheduling Nested Families

12-06-2012 12:16 PM in reply to: cchrisrun

If you use the assembly feature, you can schedule structural components and families along with the nested families in those components.  For example:  Say you had a steel beam with a double angle shear tab bolted to it.  You could make the steel beam and the double angle (which has a bunch of A325 bolts nested into the sheartab) part of the same assembly.  When you create shop drawings for the assembly, you can also create a schedule that shows all of the parts of that assembly.  If the bolts in the double angle shear connection are "Shared" (the shared box is checked) then the 6 bolts that are part of the double angle connection will be included in that schedule.  I think in Revit there are multiple ways of getting the job done.  You just have to decide which is easier.  The other way will work as well, but it makes you have to do more accounting.

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Re: Scheduling Nested Families

06-04-2014 02:44 AM in reply to: CADastrophe

i think i have the same problem as well and cannot get over it. I have a 5 type family nested and shared into a parent family. The 5 types have different names of course but also a shared parameter as an id for each one of them (an integer 1 to 5).

 

When inserting the parent family to the project i can schedule it but cannot filter it by nested name.

i see the nested id parameter to its own column.

when i try to link the shared id to a parent family parameter the shared id loses info which then takes from the family parameter.link parameters.jpg

 

any suggestions?

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Re: Scheduling Nested Families

06-04-2014 04:38 AM in reply to: binaryray

Hello, and welcome to the Discussion Groups!

 

If you want to control the order of the Nested Families in the Schedule (which is what I'm assuming the integer 1-5 is for), that would have to be a separate Shared Parameter from the ID Shared Parameter. The ID of the nested Families is supposed to be linked to the ID Parameter in the host Family, so the "pieces" can be sorted/grouped according to what gets inputted in the Project.

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Re: Scheduling Nested Families

06-04-2014 05:58 AM in reply to: CADastrophe

Let me refrase my problem. I have one parent door family. In it i have nested one door panel which has five types. Each type has exaclty the same geometry but different materials and id parameter. I have used the <family type...> parameter for the nesting. All parameters are shared.

 

When i put this to my project i want a schedule that filters according to the nested door types. The schedule can sort and group but cannot filter.

Thats why i introduced the id parameter from the nested families to the schedule but it counts them as individual components and does not match them to the parent family.

 

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Scheduling Nested Families

06-04-2014 06:08 AM in reply to: binaryray

OK, understood. Can you attach your Family file? That would make it easier to find a direct solution.

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