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revitforbreakfast
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Demystifying Revit Structure

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10-25-2011 12:47 PM

As an advanced BIM Person, I thought I'd post some complaints I've heard about Revit in my Career. I will share some practices too. I know the answers and best practices, but I wanted to have them backed up by the users on here. Please dymystify this. Sometimes revit is a hard sell, but a post like this can help demystify such items. Do you agree that these are valid complaints / practices?

 

Top 3 complaints:

 

  1. You cannot detail in Revit Structure. It cannot match the performance of AutoCAD. It is better to import all details and sections from AutoCAD.
  2. You cannot do complex railing or stairs in Revit.
  3. Locking and pinning Grids is not important.

 

Top three unique practices:

 

Using 2D elements to make section and detail heads instead of the ones provided by Revit.

Using families to make complex stairs and railings, then detailing it in AutoCAD.

 

Using in-place modelling to make complex objects made from steel.

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shiny.stephen
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Re: Demystifying Revit Structure

10-28-2011 05:30 AM in reply to: revitforbreakfast

 

You can detail in Revit but it could be a tedious work hence we have AutoCAD® Revit® Structure Suite which incorporates Revit Structure and AutoCAD Structural Detailing.

 

Where Revit Structure coordinates design and documentation and provides bidirectional links to structural analysis software. AutoCAD Structural Detailing is a powerful solution for detailing and creating fabrication shop drawings for steel and reinforced concrete structures.

 

You could create complex railing and stairs in Revit. When browsing through a few pages got this below link.

http://aucache.autodesk.com/au2009/sessions/5380/AB114-1.pdf

 

Locking and pinning Grids could be important based on the number of people working on a project and the complexity of the project. Below is a good article that I came across:

 

http://jasongrant.squarespace.com/jason-grant-blog/2011/7/13/using-design-options-to-lock-revit-grid...


 


Shiny Stephen
Support Specialist
Product Support
Autodesk, Inc.


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revitforbreakfast
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Re: Demystifying Revit Structure

10-28-2011 12:51 PM in reply to: shiny.stephen

Great link on the stairs. I was surprised to not see it at the AU site.

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ArthurMacLeod5818
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Re: Demystifying Revit Structure

10-28-2011 01:29 PM in reply to: revitforbreakfast

I would have guessed the primitive text handling capabilities would have been one of the top three complaints.

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kirbybeegles4894
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Re: Demystifying Revit Structure

11-08-2011 12:22 PM in reply to: ArthurMacLeod5818

Agree on the text.  The text box tool in revit is nearly useless in comparison to what's available in AutoCAD.  It's probably my biggest complaint personally.

 

As far as detailing, I would completely disagree that it cannot be done.  My firm only uses REVIT to produce contract documents, and once you have your detailing system set up the way you like, it can actually be done FASTER than in AutoCAD.

 

One other complaint I'd add is that there isn't too much flexibility in how you can organize and set up schedule graphics.  We end up having to fake a lot of stuff in to make our schedules look the way we want.  Furthermore, I'd love to see REVIT introduce some type of table tool, something that simply has rows and columns that can be filled in with any text information you want.  We do a lot of non-dynamic scheduling that this would be beneficial for.

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ArthurMacLeod5818
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Re: Demystifying Revit Structure

11-08-2011 08:07 PM in reply to: kirbybeegles4894

 

Agree completely. The simplicity of the detailing in Revit is easier to use than robust many ways to skin a cat in AutoCAD. I make my dumb tables using Dotsoft's Excel2DWG. I do my complicated general notes in MS Word saved to Adobe then to JPG and import the graphic. It is a bit tedious but it gives me the text i need.

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alb01
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Re: Demystifying Revit Structure

06-14-2013 05:39 AM in reply to: revitforbreakfast

I would agree 110% on the text issue, why is Revit so far behind Cad. I even needed to use ASCII codes to inset a squared symbol the other day. When was the last time someone needed to them, about 1986 for me!!!

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