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Ventilation Schedule Showing Space Information and VAV Box Information

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08-26-2013 11:39 AM

I am trying to make a Ventilation Schedule.  I have one made, but I was wondering if there is any way to add a column which would pull the 'Mark' parameter from the VAV Box (Terminal Unit) that is in the corresponding space.  I know I can make a schedule of Mechanical Equipment which would list all of the marks, but I need to connect these with the space information for the space they are in, so I can show for example Space Name, Number, CFM, Occupancy, etc.  Can this be done?  Any and all ideas are welcomed.

- Tim Smith
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Re: Ventilation Schedule Showing Space Information and VAV Box Information

08-26-2013 12:29 PM in reply to: tim102289

If the VAV actually do exist within the Space, you can use your Mechanical Equipment Schedule and pull the info from each element's associated Space. While selecting the fields for your Schedule, use the pulldown below the list of available fields ("Select available fields from:") to access the Space fields.

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Re: Ventilation Schedule Showing Space Information and VAV Box Information

08-26-2013 01:01 PM in reply to: CADastrophe

Any idea why Area is not listed?

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08-26-2013 01:14 PM in reply to: tim102289

I see now what you were saying about them being in the space.  Most of the boxes are above the ceiling, and therefore aren't considered to be in the space.

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Re: Ventilation Schedule Showing Space Information and VAV Box Information

08-26-2013 01:35 PM in reply to: tim102289

tim102289 wrote:

"Any idea why Area is not listed?"


 I don't know - that's odd. Oh, well; time for another work-around! Include the fields "Space: Volume" and "Space: Unbounded Height" in your Schedule. Create a new Calculated Value (Type: Area) called "Area" with the formula:

 

Space: Volume / Space: Unbounded Height

 

You can then go to the Formatting tab and mark the Volume and Height fields as "Hidden Field" so they don't display on the Schedule.

 


tim102289 wrote:

I see now what you were saying about them being in the space.  Most of the boxes are above the ceiling, and therefore aren't considered to be in the space.


If the VAV's exist above the Space, open the Family for editing and go to Family Category and Parameters (which is the icon with the folder image on the Ribbon). Under the Parameters , enable "Room Calculation Point". Follow this WikiHelp link for more information on Room Calculation Points.

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Re: Ventilation Schedule Showing Space Information and VAV Box Information

08-26-2013 01:45 PM in reply to: CADastrophe

And that would work for spaces too correct?  I'm guessing there isn't a separate space calculation point.  Your ideas sound like something that will work.  I was using Area in my previous schedule to calculate various other fields.  So I could make that calculated area field from volume as you suggested, and then calculate from there.  This just might work lol.

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Re: Ventilation Schedule Showing Space Information and VAV Box Information

08-26-2013 01:49 PM in reply to: tim102289

Room Calculation Point Functionality is a new feature of Revit 2014... :smileysad:  Looks like I'm back to square 1.  This project is being done in 2013.

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Re: Ventilation Schedule Showing Space Information and VAV Box Information

08-26-2013 02:00 PM in reply to: tim102289

Yes, Room Calculation Points were added to the Mechanical Equipment Category with 2014.

 

For previous releases, I think you'll have to raise the "Limit Offset" of the Space so that it is high enough to catch the Mechanical Equipment.

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Re: Ventilation Schedule Showing Space Information and VAV Box Information

08-26-2013 02:06 PM in reply to: CADastrophe

Nope, the Limit Offset doesn't solve the problem.  I already have the spaces set up to have an Upper Limit of the floor above, but when you look in section/elevation, the spaces stop at the ceiling regardless.  Any other ideas?

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Re: Ventilation Schedule Showing Space Information and VAV Box Information

08-26-2013 02:13 PM in reply to: tim102289

The Ceilings in the Architectural Link are set to Room Bounding. Are you Linking in the Architectural "Working Model". meaning the Project that the Architect is directly working in? If not, perhaps you can open it and disable the Room Bounding property of the Ceilings. This is just speculation, though.

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