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tschau3
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Upside down lighting fixtures

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12-15-2010 04:54 PM

Would anyone know why my lighting fixtures are coming in upside down and is there a way to flip them over?  I'm brand new to Revit MEP and am hoping there is just a setting I'm missing.  Even the little preview in properties shows the fixture upside down.  Any help would be appreciated.  Many thanks...

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LukeRamirez
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Re: Upside down lighting fixtures

12-17-2010 01:47 PM in reply to: tschau3

Where did you get the file?  Sometimes family files are just created incorrectly.  I've experienced this with some HVAC and plumbing families.  You might have to edit the family to see if you can fix it, or just find a new one that works. 

 

Also, check to make sure that the plane you're defining for placement is the one you want. 

 

good luck and patience (the Revit mantra) :smileyhappy:

 

-Luke

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tschau3
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Re: Upside down lighting fixtures

12-20-2010 08:07 AM in reply to: LukeRamirez

I got it worked out.  I used the "Place on workplane" option and then used the "#" button to flip the fixture.  Thanks for the reply though!

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LukeRamirez
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Re: Upside down lighting fixtures

12-20-2010 08:38 AM in reply to: tschau3

Glad you got it worked out.  So the "#" key will flip a fixture?  Good to know! 

 

Thanks,

Luke

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ltuss
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Re: Upside down lighting fixtures

12-21-2010 10:58 AM in reply to: tschau3

The fixture is modeled upside down for placement in a reflecting ceiling plan.  Place on face hosting will flip the fixture to the correct orientation in the Ceiling Plan. Without using the reflected Ceiling Plan the best method is in an elevation view draw a reference plane from RIGHT to LEFT and name it and set the elevation. Then in plan view you can select Place on work plane select the plane you just named and the fixtures will orient correctly. The fixtures hosted to this plane will move together if the elevation changes.

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ree.espinoza
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Re: Upside down lighting fixtures

03-10-2011 06:58 PM in reply to: tschau3

Do I go to a reflected ceiling plan or floor plan after creating the ref plane? for placing fixtures

 

At what point is the # key used? upon placement or can I have multiple fixtures selected and do a global flip.

Thanks jn advance for your help. 

 

I have a whole model where the pendant fixtures where placed on view level (ie floor) and upside down apparently in plan view.

 

Also are you using the default pendant fixture family from Revit?  I thought the family was quirked but??? I wonder what  the original process intent was and or is. I am in 2010 MEP for above mentioned project But also using 2011 for others.

 

:smileyhappy:

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bvanallen
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Re: Upside down lighting fixtures

02-23-2012 11:00 AM in reply to: ree.espinoza

I'm getting upside down fixtures from a batch copy monitor. I can correctly insert the same (face based) family on my ceiling face but when I replace the arch fixtures they come in wrong. I've tried using # (shift-3) to flip them but that doesn't work. Can anyone please help?

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CADastrophe
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Re: Upside down lighting fixtures

02-23-2012 11:21 AM in reply to: bvanallen

Have you investigated the fixture in the Arch link? Are they ceiling or face-based in their file?

 

And by the "#" button earlier in the post, I assume he meant the "Flip Work Plane" icon that appears when you select an element:FlipWorkPlane.JPG

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Re: Upside down lighting fixtures

02-23-2012 11:30 AM in reply to: CADastrophe

CADastrophe,

 

The arch fixtures are based on a workplane. You're quess was correct but I still couldn't see the "flip work plane" button before. I read a few other posts and found out that it won't show up when you have multiple fixtures selected (not sure why, you can rotate multiple fixtures why not mirror too). At least I can go though and edit them now. Thanks.

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Re: Upside down lighting fixtures

02-23-2012 11:48 AM in reply to: bvanallen

In a test (RMEP 2012), I hosted a few lights to a plane incorrectly, and then used the "Flip Work Plane" to correct them. When Copy/Monitored from a host project, they did retain that information, and copied over correctly. Are you using Type Mapping?

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