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Revit System - Plumbing & Piping

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Message 1 of 19
Anonymous
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Revit System - Plumbing & Piping

I just received the new Revit System. Just looking around it, I don't see a plumbing module, and has a very limited piping capability. Am I missing something?. Anyone else had a chance to check the software out.
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Message 2 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

That portion in MIA.

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R. Robert Bell


wrote in message news:5161977@discussion.autodesk.com...
I just received the new Revit System. Just looking around it, I don't see a
plumbing module, and has a very limited piping capability. Am I missing
something?. Anyone else had a chance to check the software out.
Message 3 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

What exactly do you mean when you say MIA?

I have not received the software yet, for review. I was looking forward to it until I read this.

Autodesk has listed on their features and specs website piping and plumbing capabilities.
Message 4 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

missing in action = not available in this release...

looking at the info on the website, it's appears to always be talking about
the bundle... which includes ABS. the faq (1.2) does seem to describe the
revit bit as having MEP, which would certainly imply piping capabilities.
~shrug~

wrote in message news:5163513@discussion.autodesk.com...
What exactly do you mean when you say MIA?

I have not received the software yet, for review. I was looking forward to
it until I read this.

Autodesk has listed on their features and specs website piping and plumbing
capabilities.
Message 5 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

It looks like Revit Systems is being released as an early beta the same
as ABS was. Not yet functional but still full price. There were a lot of
PO'd customers with early ABS including us. A lot of promises with
limited functionality...
Message 6 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

The first three releases of ABS did more damage than good for production. Won't be participating in that again.
Message 7 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

We won't either. I wouldn't testing the product to make it better, but
we won't be paying Autodesk to do so.

xcam wrote:
> The first three releases of ABS did more damage than good for production. Won't be participating in that again.
Message 8 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Make that: "I wouldn't mind testing the product to make it better"

AndrewT wrote:
> We won't either. I wouldn't testing the product to make it better, but
> we won't be paying Autodesk to do so.
>
> xcam wrote:
>> The first three releases of ABS did more damage than good for production. Won't be participating in that again.
Message 9 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Revit Systems has already gone through a very thorough Beta program. This
release is a true release, not a Beta.

"AndrewT" wrote in message
news:5164089@discussion.autodesk.com...
Make that: "I wouldn't mind testing the product to make it better"

AndrewT wrote:
> We won't either. I wouldn't testing the product to make it better, but
> we won't be paying Autodesk to do so.
>
> xcam wrote:
>> The first three releases of ABS did more damage than good for production.
>> Won't be participating in that again.
Message 10 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

That is good to hear. I was going off the comments that it is said to
have Plumbing when in fact it does not. Sounded a little too familiar...

Scott Davis wrote:
> Revit Systems has already gone through a very thorough Beta program. This
> release is a true release, not a Beta.
>
> "AndrewT" wrote in message
> news:5164089@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Make that: "I wouldn't mind testing the product to make it better"
>
> AndrewT wrote:
>> We won't either. I wouldn't testing the product to make it better, but
>> we won't be paying Autodesk to do so.
>>
>> xcam wrote:
>>> The first three releases of ABS did more damage than good for production.
>>> Won't be participating in that again.
Message 11 of 19
sinisia
in reply to: Anonymous

This first release of Revit Systems does have piping capabilities, however as with any first release product there are some gaps in the number of 3D fittings and parts provided in the family libraries out of the box. We are committed to filling these content gaps as quickly as possible with aggressive release plans. As many of you are aware, the variety and number of piping and plumbing fittings and connection types required to model every kind of system in any type of building is huge. For those of you who are anxious to gain the competitive advantages of BIM for MEP as quickly as possible, there is a content creation tool called Family Editor provided with Revit Systems where you can build any 3D fittings or content required for modeling your projects that we have not provided in the box yet.
Message 12 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

The piping is there (very basic), but I don't see the plumbing module. There is not even a tutorial for it. Like I said, Did I miss something when I installed it, or is the plumbing coming later on. On a positive note the mechanical and electrical seem very capable, except that the electrical does not include an schematic drawing tools (for rises and one lines)
Message 13 of 19
sinisia
in reply to: Anonymous

There will definitely be more plumbing specific content and features coming in future releases. However, from a modeling perspective, pipe is pipe whether it's CW supply to a sink or CW supply to a chiller. From a usability perspective would you rather learn separate tools for each or have a common modeling tool for piping/plumbing where only the content you choose to model with determines the different systems?

Schematics is a different topic. Doesn't fit the modeling paradigm very well. May require more of a drafting solution than a BIM to solve well. ABS does a pretty nice job with intelligent schematics already. We are considering how to tie these different types of representation more closely together.
Message 14 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Plumbing I was thinking more along fixtures and the ability to connect intelligently (as AB'S) to them.
Message 15 of 19
sinisia
in reply to: Anonymous

That capability is in this release already. Just not a whole of fixtures in the library yet.
Message 16 of 19
wcrane
in reply to: Anonymous

I havent seen alot of promises from adesk re. systems. Its definitely not complete but shouldnt take as long as ABS did to get there i think.
My evaluation is its not ready for prime-time yet. There's still alot of common equipment to be developed. As far as full price, you could have both for very little extra. so, highly discounted is more like it.
Message 17 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Not to sound negative, but we've been waiting for the content level to rise
to a useable level for three releases in ABS. Of course vendor support would
be welcomed as well, but it's still very limited...


wrote in message news:5165703@discussion.autodesk.com...
There will definitely be more plumbing specific content and features coming
in future releases. However, from a modeling perspective, pipe is pipe
whether it's CW supply to a sink or CW supply to a chiller. From a usability
perspective would you rather learn separate tools for each or have a common
modeling tool for piping/plumbing where only the content you choose to model
with determines the different systems?

Schematics is a different topic. Doesn't fit the modeling paradigm very
well. May require more of a drafting solution than a BIM to solve well. ABS
does a pretty nice job with intelligent schematics already. We are
considering how to tie these different types of representation more closely
together.
Message 18 of 19
firmware
in reply to: Anonymous

do autodesk inventor pro 11 has its plumbing and piping? actually im not gonna use this for mechanical purposes scheme. is it useful if im gonna use autodesk inventor pro 11?
Message 19 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I would be interested in finding out how this is going to work for you. Could you post your experience with inventor for piping in Revit. Thanks

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