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*Patrick Porter
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Rectangular Eccentric duct transitions does any one have any??

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08-07-2006 06:44 PM
Im at a loss as i cant find an Eccentric duct transition fitting, there is a
standard concentric one but no template eccentrice one can anyone point me
in the right direction as for finding one. I am searching the web as we
speak but having absolutly no luck, and i would think this to be a common
fitting type that should have been available out of the box.
*jason martin [Autodesk]
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Re: Rectangular Eccentric duct transitions does any one have any??

08-07-2006 10:10 PM in reply to: *Patrick Porter
Hi Patrick -

The transition that ships in the default template is capable of being either
concentric or eccentric, as well as anything in between. It is also possible
to make this transition into something of an offset, given the correct
circumstances.



You should be able to either layout duct justified (look under options on
the options bar when drawing duct) or to "re-justify" duct once drawn using
the "Justify" button on the options bar when the two ducts and the
transition are selected.



jason


"Patrick Porter" wrote in message
news:5261404@discussion.autodesk.com...
Im at a loss as i cant find an Eccentric duct transition fitting, there is a
standard concentric one but no template eccentrice one can anyone point me
in the right direction as for finding one. I am searching the web as we
speak but having absolutly no luck, and i would think this to be a common
fitting type that should have been available out of the box.
*Patrick Porter
Message 3 of 9 (1,279 Views)

Re: Rectangular Eccentric duct transitions does any one have any??

08-08-2006 06:04 AM in reply to: *Patrick Porter
Thanks Jason, I will definately look into that option in the next few
minutes. But in the mean time is any of that information documented anywhere
in the help files or on the cd. Im haveing a difficult time finding
information about several tools for revit systems and the help menu nor
tutorials cover enough information about the systems side of revit systems,
for basic revit yeah but not the "systems" portion.


"jason martin [Autodesk]" wrote in message
news:5261482@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Patrick -

The transition that ships in the default template is capable of being either
concentric or eccentric, as well as anything in between. It is also possible
to make this transition into something of an offset, given the correct
circumstances.



You should be able to either layout duct justified (look under options on
the options bar when drawing duct) or to "re-justify" duct once drawn using
the "Justify" button on the options bar when the two ducts and the
transition are selected.



jason


"Patrick Porter" wrote in message
news:5261404@discussion.autodesk.com...
Im at a loss as i cant find an Eccentric duct transition fitting, there is a
standard concentric one but no template eccentrice one can anyone point me
in the right direction as for finding one. I am searching the web as we
speak but having absolutly no luck, and i would think this to be a common
fitting type that should have been available out of the box.
*jason martin [Autodesk]
Message 4 of 9 (1,279 Views)

Re: Rectangular Eccentric duct transitions does any one have any??

08-10-2006 06:59 PM in reply to: *Patrick Porter
Hi Patrick -

I've logged a request to have the justification editor added to the help
file.

Basically here's how it works...

You need to select the ducts on either side of the transition that you want
to justify as well as the transition itself. From the options bar click the
"Justify" button (see image 1).

This will place you in Justify "mode".

In Justify mode you will see a control added to the screen that specifies
the alignment element, as well as the aligment location. In image 2, the
aligment is on the "left" segment and is set to middle center (it's hard to
tell in a plan view that it is actually middle center, but we'll cover that
in a minute).

If the aligmenet line is on the correct element (it is always going to be on
either the first or last element in the "series") then we can move on. If
not click the "Toggle Aligning Element" button from the options bar and it
will switch to the "other end".

Now you can either click the "alignment line" button if you want to pick the
aligment line graphically, or you can select the "justification" from the
drop list.

I generally use the "aligment line" button as I don't have any idea what
right and left mean for a duct because I don't always remember which way I
drew the duct.

NOTE: if you are in a plan view, it's hard to select between the Top Left,
Middle Left, and Bottom Left, but you can "toggle" through them using the
tab key. The one that is currently selected is displayed in the Status bar
(and the tool tip if you are wait for it to show up).

Once you have the aligment line selected correctly, just click finish and
the run will be justified to the line you selected.

jason

"Patrick Porter" wrote in message
news:5261706@discussion.autodesk.com...
Thanks Jason, I will definately look into that option in the next few
minutes. But in the mean time is any of that information documented anywhere
in the help files or on the cd. Im haveing a difficult time finding
information about several tools for revit systems and the help menu nor
tutorials cover enough information about the systems side of revit systems,
for basic revit yeah but not the "systems" portion.


"jason martin [Autodesk]" wrote in message
news:5261482@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Patrick -

The transition that ships in the default template is capable of being either
concentric or eccentric, as well as anything in between. It is also possible
to make this transition into something of an offset, given the correct
circumstances.



You should be able to either layout duct justified (look under options on
the options bar when drawing duct) or to "re-justify" duct once drawn using
the "Justify" button on the options bar when the two ducts and the
transition are selected.



jason


"Patrick Porter" wrote in message
news:5261404@discussion.autodesk.com...
Im at a loss as i cant find an Eccentric duct transition fitting, there is a
standard concentric one but no template eccentrice one can anyone point me
in the right direction as for finding one. I am searching the web as we
speak but having absolutly no luck, and i would think this to be a common
fitting type that should have been available out of the box.
*Patrick Porter
Message 5 of 9 (1,279 Views)

Re: Rectangular Eccentric duct transitions does any one have any??

08-10-2006 09:10 PM in reply to: *Patrick Porter
Thank you kind sir that worked!! I had figured it out just hours prior to
your posting after playing with it for a while in a secion ,3d and plan
view. thanks again for confirming.
"jason martin [Autodesk]" wrote in message
news:5265711@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Patrick -

I've logged a request to have the justification editor added to the help
file.

Basically here's how it works...

You need to select the ducts on either side of the transition that you want
to justify as well as the transition itself. From the options bar click the
"Justify" button (see image 1).

This will place you in Justify "mode".

In Justify mode you will see a control added to the screen that specifies
the alignment element, as well as the aligment l
ocation. In image 2, the
aligment is on the "left" segment and is set to middle center (it's hard to
tell in a plan view that it is actually middle center, but we'll cover that
in a minute).

If the aligmenet line is on the correct element (it is always going to be on
either the first or last element in the "series") then we can move on. If
not click the "Toggle Aligning Element" button from the options bar and it
will switch to the "other end".

Now you can eith
er click the "alignment line" button if you want to pick the
aligment line graphically, or you can select the "justification" from the
drop list.

I generally use the "aligment line" button as I don't have any idea what
right and left mean for a duct because I don't always remember which way I
drew the duct.

NOTE: if you are in a plan view, it's hard to select between the Top Left,
Middle Left, and Bottom Left, but you can "toggle" through them using the
tab key
The one that is currently selected is displayed in the Status bar
(and the tool tip if you are wait for it to show up).

Once you have the aligment line selected correctly, just click finish and
the run will be justified to the line you selected.

jason

"Patrick Porter" wrote in message
news:5261706@discussion.autodesk.com...
Thanks Jason, I will definately look into that option in the next few
minutes. But in the mean time is any of that informatio
n documented anywhere
in the help files or on the cd. Im haveing a difficult time finding
information about several tools for revit systems and the help menu nor
tutorials cover enough information about the systems side of revit systems,
for basic revit yeah but not the "systems" portion.


"jason martin [Autodesk]" wrote in message
news:5261482@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Patrick -

The transition that ships in the default template is capable of being either

concentric or eccentric, as well as anything in between. It is also possible
to make this transition into something of an offset, given the correct
circumstances.



You should be able to either layout duct justified (look under options on
the options bar when drawing duct) or to "re-justify" duct once drawn using
the "Justify" button on the options bar when the two ducts and the
transition are selected.



jason


"Patrick Porter" wrote in message
news:52
61404@discussion.autodesk.com...
Im at a loss as i cant find an Eccentric duct transition fitting, there is a
standard concentric one but no template eccentrice one can anyone point me
in the right direction as for finding one. I am searching the web as we
speak but having absolutly no luck, and i would think this to be a common
fitting type that should have been available out of the box.
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Message 6 of 9 (1,279 Views)

Re: Rectangular Eccentric duct transitions does any one have any??

08-05-2009 06:19 AM in reply to: *Patrick Porter
I am following these directions as described, but after I select the ducts and transition the transition icon does not appear as shown in the previous note (image 1)...How do I load this option? Thanks!
Aaron A. Gray
Advance Design
369 Sagamore Drive
Rochester, NY 14617
585-734-8277
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gabecottam1
Posts: 7
Registered: ‎05-22-2008
Message 7 of 9 (1,279 Views)

Re: Rectangular Eccentric duct transitions does any one have any??

08-05-2009 07:13 AM in reply to: *Patrick Porter
Type "justifying ductwork" in your help index. That will show you what the justification tool icon will look like in your current software version. (This tool seems to change with each release) - you will see the original post is very old. Many versions of Revit ago. Edited by: gabecottam1 on Aug 5, 2009 8:13 AM
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Posts: 90
Registered: ‎12-10-2003
Message 8 of 9 (1,279 Views)

Re: Rectangular Eccentric duct transitions does any one have any??

08-05-2009 12:06 PM in reply to: *Patrick Porter
Thanks for the help...BUT..how frustrating this is....All I want to do is change a concentric reducer to an eccentric reducer..I am trying to follow the align instructions but they just don't make any sense...I have tried this 50 different ways and can't get the fitting to change...The "justifying ductwork" help diagram is basically what I want to do, except in plan...over 2 hours on one fitting....The instructions are obviously missing some steps..am I suppose to guess as to what to do?....I am afraid of what's next....Please help!
Aaron A. Gray
Advance Design
369 Sagamore Drive
Rochester, NY 14617
585-734-8277
Active Member
gabecottam1
Posts: 7
Registered: ‎05-22-2008
Message 9 of 9 (1,279 Views)

Re: Rectangular Eccentric duct transitions does any one have any??

08-05-2009 12:30 PM in reply to: *Patrick Porter
Sorry, Not sure how to help. I've always had it work just like in the help file example.
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