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diffusers moving/rotating with ceilings

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edk800f1
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diffusers moving/rotating with ceilings

Working with MEP09, central files, linked architectural file.

When the architect moves the boundary of a lay-in ceiling, my face-hosted diffusers also move that corresponding distance.

In an area where he sketched the ceiling boundary (didn't have pre-defined boundary walls), stretching the left side results in diffusers moving, stretching the right side, and my diffusers stay put.

In an area where he did have defined boundaries, and he used his "one-click" install ceiling method, then stretching the left ceiling edge (not the actual boundary wall), my diffusers moved.

Him stretching the right, bottom, or top of the "sketched" or the "one-click" ceilings don't appear to move my diffusers.
Is this "bug" resolved in MEP10?

Another thing we noticed is if he changes the orientation of his 2x4 ceiling (by rotating the ceiling 90), all the diffusers also rotate 90, but not about their center, but about some other reference point. The architects have created two different 2x4 ceiling types, with different orientation, so they change types instead of rotating the ceiling.

thanks
Ed
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edk800f1
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Actually, we've been doing a little more experimenting, and in addition to changes I noted with rotating ceilings, or stretching the left boundary, it appears that modifying 1/2 the boundaries of the ceiling causes the diffusers to go crazy.
This only happens when MEP09 has a linked ceiling. If construction ceilings directly in MEP09, the diffusers behave.
Is nobody else using linked ceilings, or are you waiting until the ceilings are DONE before placing MEP hosted items?
I believe that the architect is sending his findings directly to Autodesk, will see what their response is.
thanks
Ed
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Anonymous
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On Thu, 14 May 2009 12:38:24 +0000, edk800f1 <> wrote:

>Actually, we've been doing a little more experimenting, and in addition to changes I noted with rotating ceilings, or stretching the left boundary, it appears that modifying 1/2 the boundaries of the ceiling
> causes the diffusers to go crazy. This only happens when MEP09 has a linked ceiling. If construction ceilings directly in MEP09, the diffusers behave. Is nobody else using linked ceilings, or are you waiting
> until the ceilings are DONE before placing MEP hosted items? I believe that the architect is sending his findings directly to Autodesk, will see what their response is. thanks Ed

Ed,

I discovered today that this is a problem for us. We have in-house
Architects and Engineers, but we use linked models to help with file
size. We don't have a solution yet.

Regards,
Ken

Novell....it does a server good!
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Anonymous
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This is a known bug! Do not use hosted devices. Search AUGI there is information.

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=96271
http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=96803
http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=96413
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Anonymous
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On Thu, 14 May 2009 17:06:48 +0000, margaretwiggins <> wrote:

>This is a known bug! Do not use hosted devices. Search AUGI there is information. http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=96271 http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=96803 http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=96413

We checked your links. They refer to ceilings being delete and
replaced. We aren't replacing ceilings, we are just modifying
existing ceilings.

Regards,
Ken

Novell....it does a server good!
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Anonymous
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Its the same issue though - your objects are relying on 'linked' objects for thier location

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