Completed Project

[Anonymous]

Our firm has recently completed its first MEP project.

I would like to know if autodesk is interested in feedback.

[Anonymous]

JacobJBB wrote:
> I think its funny that this technique of superimposing plans on top of the other is a popular way of MacGyver-ing a solution for many problems.
>
> It worked for me in other situations where the architect used a basic ceiling and I had to overlay an RCP grid onto a floor plan to make it show up.
>
> But ultimately, as useful as this trick may be, this shouldn't be the way it's done. Hopefully Autodesk will address many of these problems in the upcoming release.

Jacob,

could you not just turn off the Architects ceiling grid in the link and
then create your own? Or was the file linked?

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Regards,
Bill Wright
http://ductductpipe.blogspot.com

[Anonymous]

I am not too familiar with the process of laying out my own ceiling grid. Is it an automatic process? How much of a workload would it be to do that for 3000+ rooms?

[Anonymous]

JacobJBB wrote:
> I am not too familiar with the process of laying out my own ceiling grid. Is it an automatic process? How much of a workload would it be to do that for 3000+ rooms?

depends, do you have a revit architecture model? is this model linked to
your revit MEP? and does it contain a ceiling grid already?

in my blog I have a video on turning off a linked ceiling grid from an
architect and adding your own ceiling grid in revit MEP.

--
Regards,
Bill Wright
http://ductductpipe.blogspot.com

[Anonymous]

Yes I have the architectural model which I then link into my MEP central file. And yes, the architects provide all ceiling grids.

[Anonymous]

My firm is about one week away from submitting 100% CDs for a University lab
and library building. I have attached a simple screenshot of the mechanical
elements. Architecture and structure were both done in Revit, the ability
to cut sections at will was amazing. The always present question of "will
it fit?" was answered with a few clicks. We did electrical, plumbing, and
fire protection in CAD, but they all came to me asking for sections at some
point.

All of the mechaical equipment (air terminals, pumps, rooftop units,
everything in the mech room) was created from scratch as well as some custom
ductwork pieces that allowed for some tricky connections.

This was our first start-to-finish Revit project so our content was not
perfect, so the autosizing and static calcs were not used. They are being
used on another project currently in the DD phase.

The ductwork plans and all sections are being printed directly from Revit
for CDs (pdf) and mixed in with the schedules, details (one detail sheet is
in Revit), controls, and piping plans which were all done in AutoCAD. We
have matched the lineweights closely enough that no one can tell the
difference between the Revit drawings and the AutoCAD ones. All together 16
sheets are being printed from Revit (several enlarged plans and section
sheets) out of 38 total sheets.

All in all it was a good experience, you can certainly learn a lot more by
doing a project than by doing the tutorials, but I am NOT suggesting you
dive right into a project without building some content (mostly for
practice) and doing the tutorials (the AutoDesk ones and whatever you can
find online). Also, subscribe to the blogs, all of them. Even though only
a few are updated regularly.

Our next Revit project is a theater and the auto-sizing based on FPM has
been awesome. I will try to post some updates about that one as I go along.

Any questions?

-Brian

[Anonymous]

Attachment.

[Anonymous]

That looks great, also looks decent size for Revit project.

have you done any Plumb or Fire Protection for this project?

[Martin__Schmid]

Hi Brian-

Can you provide some metrics such as:
File Size of linked architectural model(s)
File size of linked structural model(s)
File size of MEP model(s)
Building square footage/total number of floors

[Anonymous]

That is very cool Brian.

I would like to put the metrics of our 250K sf hospital here too for MSchmid.

Arch Link Core: 60 MB
Arch Link Shell: 120MB
Struc Link: 23 MB
HVAC Core: 42 MB
HVAC Dist: 90 MB
Plum: 80 MB
Med Gas: 32 MB
Light-Power: 28 MB
Systems: 24 MB
Hydronic: 42 MB

250,000 sf

5 Floors

Also, this was 177 Revit plots. There was probably 40 or so autocad sheets.

What other metrics are you interested in?

[Anonymous]

Can I ask how did you guys resolve coordinations between trades, it looks the revit model has been break down by trade.
did you all link into one file?

[Anonymous]

Everyone had everybody elses linked in.

[Anonymous]

Arch - 79 MB
MEP - 52 MB
Structural - 14 MB

3 floors + roof 63k sf

We only did HVAC in Revit this go around, our electrical and plumbing
departments are going to try revit soon. Because worksharing doesn't work
and the files are so big, we plan on having seperate MEP models for
electrical, mechanical, and plumbing and linking everything in.

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Hi Brian-

Can you provide some metrics such as:
File Size of linked architectural model(s)
File size of linked structural model(s)
File size of MEP model(s)
Building square footage/total number of floors

[Martin__Schmid]

Hi Scettus,

I would be interested in discussing your project with you. Would you please contact me at:
martin dot schmid at autodesk dot com

[msdynamix]

My firm just completed two Revit projects and they are bidding next Tuesday.

The first one, a one story with two mezzanine 83,020 sqft elementary school. Arch file size 54 Mb, structural file size 24Mb, and our MEPT file size 63 Mb.

The second is a one story with five mezzanine 183,286 sqft elementary/middle school. Arch file size 107 Mb, structural file size 44 Mb, and our MEPT file size 93 Mb.

We started design on the two schools last April and staggered deadline dates for SD, DD, and CD. These were our first Revit projects with a core group of users, one for each discipline working on both schools. All hvac, plumbing, electrical, and technology were done in Revit. Fire projection, enlarged kitchen plan, schedules and details were all done in AutoCAD.

[Anonymous]

Still in progress (entering CD phase), but this is what we're working on:

Arch Lab - 181MB
Arch Tower - 25MB
Arch Site - 4MB

Struct Lab - 78MB

MEP Below Grade - 31MB
MEP 1FL to 2FL - 16MB
MEP 3FL to 4FL - 15MB
MEP 5FL thru 8FL - 17MB
MEP 9FL to 10FL - 17MB
MEP PH MER - 27MB
MEP Risers - 19MB

Project is a 400,000 sqft medical research building with 16 floors coupled to a 45-story residential condo. Pic attached. Enjoy!

[Anonymous]

It seems that the majority of people working on large projects are creating their own families. Would it be possible to share some of these (on revitcity.com maybe)? If not share, maybe at least post some screenshots of the custom equipment? I am very interested in seeing what people have created. I am looking at the projects I have coming up and realize that I will also have to create much of the equipment.

[Anonymous]

It is against our firm policy to share these items as they are our intellectual property. This is more so as we now have a fair bit of engineering imbedded in them.

[Anonymous]

Same situation here, you really learn a lot about how Revit works by making
and testing the content. Start with the tutorials and looking in detail at
the provided families. It won't take too long to get the basics modeled.

If you manage to make all dimensions parametric (or mathematically driven by
parametric dimensions) you can quickly populate lots of families using type
catalogs and lookup tables. For example, we have each type of Bell and
Gossett pump modeled as one family with a huge type catalog for each of the
sizes. Each type only had to be modeled once, and we now have several
hundred pumps.

wrote in message news:5852632@discussion.autodesk.com...
It is against our firm policy to share these items as they are our
intellectual property. This is more so as we now have a fair bit of
engineering imbedded in them.

[rnp]

Scettus, Is it possible to talk to you for few minutes?

thanks

[Anonymous]

Sure...

scettus@gmail.com