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Message 1 of 18
CoreyDaun
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Change Family Host Type

A co-worker of mine has found and downloaded a cache of electrical Revit Families. However, all of them require a Wall as a host. We download and link in the architectural models on all projects so we actually have no "walls" to host to, just a link object. I am not about to Copy/Monitor all of the walls in a project so we can utilize these families. Does anyone know if the family host object can be altered?

 

Thanks

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Message 2 of 18
dennis
in reply to: CoreyDaun

Setup a dummy project with with a few walls.  Then place all the downloaded equipment that requires a wall host.  Save and exit.  Then start a mep project and link in your other dummy project.  Use the copy/monitor feature to grab the electrcial equipment.  The equipment will be brought into your project and converted to 'face-based' elements.  Then, you can 'edit family' and save them into your library.

One gotcha that I know of: multiple types within the same family MAY NOT come thru with the copy/monitor, so you may need to place each type separately in the dummy project.

Message 3 of 18
CoreyDaun
in reply to: dennis

That's a good one. And with only a couple of hoops to jump through. I suppose the same would work for translating a ceiling based family to a face based. So Revit does have the ability and functionality to convert these families, but it is not directly available to the user.

 

Thank you. All of these nice work-arounds could be combined into a manual, maybe larger than the Revit User's Manual!

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Message 4 of 18
dennis
in reply to: CoreyDaun

Yep, works for ceiling based, wall based, floor based, etc based

Message 5 of 18
asommer
in reply to: CoreyDaun

What versions (year) of Revit does that work with? I know 2012 has Copy Monitor option for Fixtures, but does it work for 2011?
Message 6 of 18
dennis
in reply to: asommer

2011 and 2012 both have the Copy/Monitor of MEP items. 

Message 7 of 18
CoreyDaun
in reply to: asommer

2012 is the only way since Copy/Monitor for equipment, fixtures, and devices is new. Many of the families we have downloaded are for Revit 2010 and 2011 projects, so in all of those cases we are still stuck.

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Message 8 of 18
dennis
in reply to: CoreyDaun

I have run into problems with some of the arch's MEP items because they were catagorized as "Generic Models".  I had to go into the arch model and change the catagory to something MEP, such as "Mechanical Equipment", "Electrical Device" or "Plumbing FIxture".  After that they come in fine, even if they were older content from earlier releases.

Message 9 of 18
CoreyDaun
in reply to: CoreyDaun

My mistake, 2011 works too.

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Message 10 of 18
mterry2019
in reply to: dennis

Do you have to do this for every project or is this something that you have to do only once on a single object so you can use that object on multiple projects?

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Message 11 of 18
CoreyDaun
in reply to: mterry2019

Once you export or save the new family to a file, you can load it in any project you like.

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Message 12 of 18
jmee6979
in reply to: CoreyDaun

Hi, i'm a newbie in revit. I'm using revit achitecture 2013. I need to convert wall/hosted family into face based ones. Please guide me step by step to do this. I tried it but I seem to fail on the copy/monitor step because i cannot grab the families on my dummy link.

 

help???

 

Thank you so much.

Message 13 of 18
CoreyDaun
in reply to: jmee6979

The fastest method is to use Batch Copy to Copy/Monitor all of the fixtures at once, which I will walk you through here. The following assumes that you have already linked the 'dummy' project into a new project.

 

1. Go to Collaborate tab » Copy Monitor ▼ Select Link, and then click on the linked Revit Model.

 

2. Click on "Coordination Settings", which is located on the ribbon.

 

3 In the following dialog, select the appropriate Category(ies) on the left.

 

4. Then, on the right, change 'Copy Behavior' to "Allow batch copy", and click 'Save & Close'.

 

5. Now click on "Batch Copy", which is located on the ribbon.

 

6. A message titled "Fixtures Found" will appear; just click "Copy the Fixtures."

 

7. Another message should follow regarding the Levels; just click "Continue Copying fixtures."

 

8. It should Revit a moment to process this, but then click on "Finish" on the Ribbon to finalize the process.

 

 

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Message 14 of 18
jmee6979
in reply to: CoreyDaun

Hi Cory! Thank you for your detailed response. Appreciate it. However, I'm lost after the first step. Smiley Sad I didn't find the coordination settings on the ribbon. What I found on the riboon after clicking the revit link are the copy/monitor modify tools.

 

Help?! Thanks again. Smiley Happy

Message 15 of 18
CoreyDaun
in reply to: jmee6979

I know you said that you're using Revit Architecture 2013, but I only have MEP and can't really verify this. I thought that they might be similar enough, but apparently not. Perhaps the best course of action is to post a question about C/M in the Revit Architecture forum.
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Message 16 of 18
tkendrick
in reply to: CoreyDaun

Kudos!

I just found this procedure in a blog post yesterday. Works great!

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Message 17 of 18
CrazedEngineer
in reply to: CoreyDaun

Awesome!  The copy/monitor worked great! 

Message 18 of 18

I wanted to ad that if you have a windows family that you want to convert you will have problems with described method. You simply can not select a wallbased family of the window category with copy monitor.

 

If you set the category to an Electrical Fixture family you can select the family and the described method works great.

After the conversion to face based you can set the category back to window.

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