Cable Tray - Vertical

[Arun_Kumar_K]

I want to route a cable tray in vertical orientation? how to do, can anybody help

[Arun_Kumar_K]

Will this feature come in 2017 version?, my waiting for this feature is now 4 years

[smbrennan]

When 2017 is officially announced, you will be able to read about any fixes and new features.

[dgorsman]

As always, the onus is on the individual users to determine if the product meets their needs or not.  Don't count solely on new feature lists or internet opinions as everyone has their own unique work environment.  New releases need testing in context *before* declaring them useless or even worse, rolling them out before finding out how well (or not) it works in that context.  There can be other additions which make work arounds possible or easier, even if the desired feature is not specifically added.

[fabiosato]

Hello,

Did you try Fabrication Parts? Particularly I didn't check if it works, but it may help you.

We have made some use to model ducts and busways.

They are available on 2016.

[Mahmoud.Ziedan]

I don’t know if I got what you want,however you can easily draw a vertical CT just by changing the offset and hitting apply.Also you can draw them in the section if you need a customized vertical routing.

[smbrennan]

The issue isn't routing cable tray vertically for a riser. It's routing cable tray along a wall. So imagine the typical cable tray bottom - it faces the ground. In some regions, this bottom faces a wall.

[Sandleaz]

You can get the cable tray to be rotated, it's not automatic or an easy task.  

[paulclaytonSZ3P2]

how did you or do you draw vertical cable tray in your examples below. this is exactly what I want and need to do but cant work it out. please help

[Sandleaz]

I don't remember.  I think I drew a line at 45 degrees and mirrored a horizontal cable tray with respect to the line.  

[smbrennan]

We'll I'll be - that works. It is a little tedious if you need to do any risers, but it can be done with enough patience and trial and error. 

[ToanDN]

Can you just draw it on an elevation or section?  That was what I did, then manually place a fitting.  I have not figured out how to automatically add a fitting for such condition but I am no engineer so I can be missing something obvious.

[rudi.roux · Accepted solution]

Hi @Arun_Kumar_K / All, 

You're pretty much left with (3x) options. I'm only going to provide two as the third option of having to create a generic line based family to mimic a cable tray comes with it's own set of problems. As far as the other two options goes, you can either use fabrication parts or manipulate the default wall-based vertical cable trays to do what you want it to do. 

DEFAULT CABLE TRAYS: 

In the Screencast below you'll be able to see how you can generate a wall based cable tray and I show some of the limitations and workarounds. You can essentially use tray fittings to control the length and simply delete it once you're done. The Screencast will pretty much show what can and can't be achieved.

I can only have one Screencast per post, so this will continue to my next post...

[rudi.roux · Accepted solution]

Continuation of my previous post: 

FABRICATION PARTS - CABLE TRAYS: 

It is a bit easier to control wall based vertical cable trays with fabrication parts in Revit and another cool function in Revit 2018 is the Multi-Point Routing option for Fabrication Parts. (Time-Saver). I don't go through the multi-point routing option in the Screencast below, as this is an old video done in Revit 2017. 

I hope this helps! 

[paulclaytonSZ3P2]

thanks for the replies. I only have Revit 2015 at the moment, does anybody know if fabrication arts works with 2015? What is the simplest way of showing vertical cable tray in this version? I am new to Revit and any help would be greatly appreciated as I am getting pressured by our engineers to show it.

[f.cornelius · Accepted solution]

You can model cable tray along a wall in a vertical position.

Probably not the way Autodesk intended it, but I'll try to explain my workflow here.

Not the prettiest way, but it does work. However, the vertical faced cable trays are very error-prone this way, but they do get the job done.

[rudi.roux]

Hi @paulclaytonSZ3P2,

Fabrication Parts came out in Revit 2016, so the easiest way would pretty much be exactly what I showed in my 1st Screencast. There I go through the possible errors which you might get, the solutions on how to draw vertical "RISING" cable trays and vertical "WALL-BASED/HORIZONTALLY ORIENTATED" cable trays. Along with ways in which you can control the lengths, positions and how to build upon your current vertical wall-based cable trays whilst keeping everything connected as you would with normal horizontal cable trays. It is doable with a couple of minor workarounds to get Revit to respond in the way which you want it to. 

@Arun_Kumar_K - I've been using Revit 2018 since April and this is still the only way. It can certainly be made a bit more user friendly going forward, but as far as being able to do/model it in Revit, you can as indicated in both Screencasts either by means of using your normal Cable Trays etc. OR by means of using Fabrication Parts. 

A cool tool which was introduced in Revit 2018 is the Multi-Point Routing (video) option for fabrication parts which does improve efficiency when working with fabrication parts. 

I hope this helps!