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cstruckmann
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Message 1 of 7 (1,713 Views)

Cable trays - vertical installation, wire mesh

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07-07-2011 07:14 PM

Vertically mounted cable trays are not possible. I see them every day in the field.

 

I'm also not totally happy with the display of the wire wesh ones. They look identical to the solid bottom or chanle ones. My users have problems visualizing them as the wire ones. Maybe another feature to improve on.....

Thanks for considering.

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Brelin
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Registered: ‎04-16-2011
Message 2 of 7 (1,652 Views)

Re: Cable trays - vertical installation, wire mesh

05-24-2012 03:11 AM in reply to: cstruckmann

Strongly agree.

 

Tray/Ladder/Mesh/Trunking should be able to be fitted in any direction at all ...just as it is on site.

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Levitskiy.SP
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Registered: ‎05-11-2012
Message 3 of 7 (1,610 Views)

Re: Cable trays - vertical installation, wire mesh

08-13-2012 07:31 AM in reply to: cstruckmann

Join, I want to work quickly, but in the end of the day I'm just trying to put the trays as needed.

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thewrz
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Registered: ‎06-08-2009
Message 4 of 7 (1,589 Views)

Re: Cable trays - vertical installation, wire mesh

08-15-2012 09:42 AM in reply to: Levitskiy.SP

I completely agree with wire-mesh looking completely wrong.

 

A couple things though:

Most of our documents are generated in Medium detail mode.

 

But when Ladder tray is used... it looks exactly like Solid Bottom. So we modify the Visibility Graphics to always show Cable Tray and Cable Tray Fittings in Fine detail mode:

fittings.JPG

 

 

I would also like some clarification on what you mean by "Vertically Mounted" cable tray.

 

Because it IS possible... but it is also a pain in the butt. Because as far as I can tell there's no way to flip your  orientation of how the cable tray is being drawn like you can with ductwork. Revit always assumes you are making Horizontal runs of Cable Tray. So in order to do what you want, you have to draw it in one elevation first. And then switch back to the 90 degree orientation and change your fittings.

 

In addition. If you were to say, draw your cable tray vertically, then switch to a different elevation and "rotate" the long runs of cable tray manually... when you try to connect it... bad things happen.

 

So here's my vertically "mounted" (there's no way to show mounting hardware to the wall unless you want to draw it manually) cable ladder. I created it by switching views and rotating lengths of cable tray:

 

verticale.JPG

 

But when I try to connect to it... bad things man...

capture-4.gif

 

 

So yes. Let us bump this request.

 

Wire Mesh looks bad, and Revit should feel bad.

 

Vertical Cable Tray installations are done in the field ALL the time, and should be a part of Revit MEP.

 

EDIT: But to be fair... when in the heck would you want to be mounting your cable tray/ladder in that orientation. Unless the installer zipties and velcros the HELL out of the cables... they won't stay in the tray :-|

 

 

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tkendrick
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Re: Cable trays - vertical installation, wire mesh

08-24-2012 09:20 AM in reply to: thewrz

Haven't had to do this yet, but I have seen it in the field, so I agree, this needs to work.

 

 

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wim
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Message 6 of 7 (1,382 Views)

Re: Cable trays - vertical installation, wire mesh

11-05-2012 01:58 PM in reply to: cstruckmann
cable trays need a complete rework to make this work!!! plz
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Brelin
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Registered: ‎04-16-2011
Message 7 of 7 (1,365 Views)

Re: Cable trays - vertical installation, wire mesh

11-08-2012 04:57 AM in reply to: thewrz

 

Vertical Cable Tray installations are done in the field ALL the time, and should be a part of Revit MEP.

 

EDIT: But to be fair... when in the heck would you want to be mounting your cable tray/ladder in that orientation. Unless the installer zipties and velcros the HELL out of the cables... they won't stay in the tray :-|

 

 


We're working on a massive project right now and all the horizontal trays in the 'dirty' areas must have their ladder/trays mounted vertically.  This is to prevent a built up of dust/soot on the containment and cause overheating.  You are right however that you do have to cable tie the hell out of the cables ...still it must be done that way.

So vertical containment in ALL orientations please!

 

Brelin

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