Wall styels..What's best?

[Anonymous]

I'm just getting my hands on Revit, and so far is great. I 'd like to start creating my wall styles, but prior to this I'd like to get some insight on how you do them. First I'm concerned with their thickness and location in the drawing, (I come from AutoCAD and I round off my dimensions), If I create them with their real values (i.e. 4" stud wall= 3.5 ,or, 8” cmu = 7-5/8”) I’m going to end up having dimensions with a lot of precision and I’d rather keep it simple. On the other hand if I add to many layers it gets confusing when printing at ¼” scale or larger, and the wall wrap stands out the full width of the wall instead of the “core”. In other words, If I make an 8” cmu wall = 7-5/8” cmu (core) with interior and exterior finishes I’m afraid of making the finishes highlight instead of the 8” cmu component per se. I apologize for such a silly question, but it’s being on my head for a while and I’d like to move forward learning more. Any help would be appreciate it.
Thank you
Micaela

[Anonymous]

Do you show a 2x4 stud as 2"x4" or do you draw it 1 1/2" x 3 1/2". Seems to
me that if you want a 8" cmu wall, personally I'd draw it 7 5/8". I mean,
why not, you have the technology to make your model as accurate as possible,
it doesn't really take any extra time, then to type in a couple of extra
numbers, what's that equate to 2 seconds?


wrote in message news:5217945@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm just getting my hands on Revit, and so far is great. I 'd like to start
creating my wall styles, but prior to this I'd like to get some insight on
how you do them. First I'm concerned with their thickness and location in
the drawing, (I come from AutoCAD and I round off my dimensions), If I
create them with their real values (i.e. 4" stud wall= 3.5 ,or, 8" cmu =
7-5/8") I'm going to end up having dimensions with a lot of precision and I'd
rather keep it simple. On the other hand if I add to many layers it gets
confusing when printing at ¼" scale or larger, and the wall wrap stands out
the full width of the wall instead of the "core". In other words, If I make
an 8" cmu wall = 7-5/8" cmu (core) with interior and exterior finishes I'm
afraid of making the finishes highlight instead of the 8" cmu component per
se. I apologize for such a silly question, but it's being on my head for a
while and I'd like to move forward learning more. Any help would be
appreciate it.
Thank you
Micaela

[Anonymous]

make your models as accurate as possible. Draw everything to real world
dimensions.

"C Ryan" wrote in message
news:5218055@discussion.autodesk.com...
Do you show a 2x4 stud as 2"x4" or do you draw it 1 1/2" x 3 1/2". Seems to
me that if you want a 8" cmu wall, personally I'd draw it 7 5/8". I mean,
why not, you have the technology to make your model as accurate as possible,
it doesn't really take any extra time, then to type in a couple of extra
numbers, what's that equate to 2 seconds?


wrote in message news:5217945@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm just getting my hands on Revit, and so far is great. I 'd like to start
creating my wall styles, but prior to this I'd like to get some insight on
how you do them. First I'm concerned with their thickness and location in
the drawing, (I come from AutoCAD and I round off my dimensions), If I
create them with their real values (i.e. 4" stud wall= 3.5 ,or, 8" cmu =
7-5/8") I'm going to end up having dimensions with a lot of precision and
I'd
rather keep it simple. On the other hand if I add to many layers it gets
confusing when printing at ¼" scale or larger, and the wall wrap stands out
the full width of the wall instead of the "core". In other words, If I make
an 8" cmu wall = 7-5/8" cmu (core) with interior and exterior finishes I'm
afraid of making the finishes highlight instead of the 8" cmu component per
se. I apologize for such a silly question, but it's being on my head for a
while and I'd like to move forward learning more. Any help would be
appreciate it.
Thank you
Micaela

[Anonymous]

Thank you. That's what I wanted to know, whether is was good to draw every wall layer in terms of sistem performance and simplicity, then using detailed components to do the sections, or creating them as you just said.

[Anonymous]

I agree. Keep the model accurate. It helps down the road with detailing.
If you want to reduce the number of fractions shown you can set your
dimensions to round off to whatever level of precision that you want.
However, you should also be aware that this can lead to situations where
the dimensions in two strings don't add up. Two individual dimensions
ending in 3/8" might be rounded down but the sum of those dimensions
will end up ending with 6/8" which might remain as 3/4" or might even be
rounded up depending on the level of precision that you set.

Robert Witte

[Anonymous]

Personally - I don't care if the dimensions come out to 1/16"... Tape
measures do have those marks on them - even if the contractor ignores them.
(I sure do when I build.) Likewise - who really cares if two strings are off
by 1/8" using rounding? As long as my handicap spaces and code required
clearances are ok - 5/8"? 3/4"? Sounds fine to me. This is a never-ending
discussion in every office I've worked in.

"Architectural Staff" wrote in message
news:5218663@discussion.autodesk.com...
I agree. Keep the model accurate. It helps down the road with detailing.
If you want to reduce the number of fractions shown you can set your
dimensions to round off to whatever level of precision that you want.
However, you should also be aware that this can lead to situations where
the dimensions in two strings don't add up. Two individual dimensions
ending in 3/8" might be rounded down but the sum of those dimensions
will end up ending with 6/8" which might remain as 3/4" or might even be
rounded up depending on the level of precision that you set.

Robert Witte

[Anonymous]

You mentioned the potential of drawings getting over-detailed in plan when going over 1/4". Well, Revit also has detail levels--coarse, medium, and fine--that allow you to control whether or not the interior layers of the walls even display. Try a few out-of-the-box wall types, and cycle through the detail levels...very cool! As well, I have to agree with everyone on this forum so far about not using nominal dimensions of materials and assemblies...