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jonmcfarlandWS
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View Range Top

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10-26-2012 01:52 PM

I'm trying to understand why objects don't appear in my view when they are below the Top View Range plane.  In the attached image TopViewRange.png, the 3D view shows a tie back rod (generic family) near the top of the slat wall segment at about 10' AFF.  The Top value for the view range was initially set to 12' then changed to Unlimited when 12' did not work.  Neither of these showed the objects.

The Family Element Visibility Settings dialog box shows everything checked for the objects.

Revit 2012 help file states:

 

  • There are a few categories for which an element located above the cut plane but partially below the top clip is shown in plan. These categories include windows, casework, and generic models. These objects are shown as viewed from above.

  ...and this is a generic object.

 

Any ideas how to get the tie backs to appear in the view without moving the cut plane just above the top of the object?

 

Thanks,

Jon

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Alfredo_Medina
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Message 2 of 10 (270 Views)

Re: View Range Top

10-26-2012 02:02 PM in reply to: jonmcfarlandWS

Check the visibility settings of the tie itself, in the family. Check also if the tie is tied :smileyhappy: to a visibility parameter. There might be other reasons, not just view range.

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jonmcfarlandWS
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Message 3 of 10 (232 Views)

Re: View Range Top

10-29-2012 05:34 AM in reply to: jonmcfarlandWS

Hello Alfredo,

 

For the tie-back, the component shows everything checked in the Family Element Visibility Settings dialog box.  In both the tie-back family and the project, everthing is checked in the Visibility/Graphic Overrides dialog box.  If I move the cut plane above the tie-back, it shows, but, according to the Help, they should also show when it is between the Top and Cut Plane planes.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Jon

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Alfredo_Medina
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Message 4 of 10 (226 Views)

Re: View Range Top

10-29-2012 06:36 AM in reply to: jonmcfarlandWS

There must be a check mark missing somewhere. Hard to tell without looking at the family file.

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jonmcfarlandWS
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Re: View Range Top

10-29-2012 12:04 PM in reply to: Alfredo_Medina

Alfredo,

 

Please take a look at the attached family file.  As far as I can tell, there is nothing preventing it from being visible.

 

Thanks,

Jon

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Alfredo_Medina
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Re: View Range Top

10-29-2012 12:28 PM in reply to: jonmcfarlandWS

Well, I can see it in a plan view, elevation, etc. What elevation is this supposed to be at when it's not visible?

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jonmcfarlandWS
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Re: View Range Top

10-29-2012 12:32 PM in reply to: Alfredo_Medina

Can you see it in the plan view when it's above the Cut Plane but below the Top plane?  As a generic object (according to the Help file), you should see it.  I don't.

Jon

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Re: View Range Top

10-29-2012 01:19 PM in reply to: jonmcfarlandWS

Yes, I can see it.

 

visibility_issue.jpg

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jonmcfarlandWS
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Message 9 of 10 (187 Views)

Re: View Range Top

10-29-2012 01:48 PM in reply to: Alfredo_Medina

Still no luck here.  See attached.

The tie-back is visible in the RCP or if I move it below the cup plane (or the cut plane above it), but not in the plsn view when it's below the Top cut plane and above the Cut plane.  In the view, everything is checked VG and for the object.

Jon

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Message 10 of 10 (181 Views)

Re: View Range Top

10-29-2012 02:08 PM in reply to: jonmcfarlandWS

Yes, I can see it with those settings, too. Must be something specific to the project.

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