¡UNIDADES!, ¡por favor!...

[Anonymous]

Could someone please direct me to a simple option setting so that I can
enter default distance values as INCH units, instead of feet?

I would find it *really* nice to move a wall over, say, 20, and not find it
on the neighbor's lawn.

Do the programmers at Autodesk realize that that little inch mark requires a
SHIFT on most keyboards that I've seen?

More than sufficiently cheesed just thinking about it,
David Kozina

[Anonymous]

just using logic-

it can either be default feet or default inches..

default to feet is just too obvious..

but being able to overriding the default if you are
building a bird house might be okay..

[Anonymous]

David,

You can't change the default units to inches, however you don't need the
shift key either.

you can input distances like this: 10 6 1/2, which will be read as 10'-6
1/2".

So to move something 20 inches, you can input 0 20.

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wrote in message news:6331655@discussion.autodesk.com...
Could someone please direct me to a simple option setting so that I can
enter default distance values as INCH units, instead of feet?

I would find it *really* nice to move a wall over, say, 20, and not find it
on the neighbor's lawn.

Do the programmers at Autodesk realize that that little inch mark requires a
SHIFT on most keyboards that I've seen?

More than sufficiently cheesed just thinking about it,
David Kozina

[Anonymous]

Matt,
Thanks, it helps a little. *Most* annoying every time I tried to move a
column or wall and forgot the inch mark.

I'm sure you see that 0 20 is twice the number of keystrokes of 20.
Just wondering why an ARCH unit setting is seemingly so difficult for the
Revit programmers to comprehend. I know it'd really help me out on the
transitioning process. Don't know if I'm alone here.

Best regards,
David Kozina



"Matt Dillon" wrote in message
news:6331701@discussion.autodesk.com...
David,

You can't change the default units to inches, however you don't need the
shift key either.

you can input distances like this: 10 6 1/2, which will be read as 10'-6
1/2".

So to move something 20 inches, you can input 0 20.

--

wrote in message news:6331655@discussion.autodesk.com...
Could someone please direct me to a simple option setting so that I can
enter default distance values as INCH units, instead of feet?

I would find it *really* nice to move a wall over, say, 20, and not find it
on the neighbor's lawn.

Do the programmers at Autodesk realize that that little inch mark requires a
SHIFT on most keyboards that I've seen?

More than sufficiently cheesed just thinking about it,
David Kozina

[sgoodmansen]

Take a look at Revit inchworm, a free program written by Scott Hopkins to speed up this sort of distance entry. I haven't used it myself, because I mostly use a laptop without a number pad, but it may work for you. Read through the whole thread at Augi.com to decide.

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=2870&highlight=inch+default

I also agree being able to change the default to inches would be preferred.

[Anonymous]

On 2/6/2010 8:02 AM, David Kozina wrote:
> Don't know if I'm alone here.
>
you're not. After having used Acad for 20 years I'm finding the
transition to Revit keystrokes a bit hard on my brain. But I persist 🙂
--
Dave - DDP
Acad, Acad Arch, Revit 2010 64 bit
Win 7 Pro
Intel I7-860 @2.8GHz
8GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX260

[Anonymous]

this "inch worm" thing is nonsense..

nothing "defaults" to inch- it "shortcuts"
to inch.. but where you gain one less keystroke
for the inch- you ADD one MORE keystroke for the
foot..

LOL

[Anonymous]

Dave Jones-

i warned everybody a long time ago that revit
was a "chinese puzzle from hell"..

but that's what i love about it.. and i would not
take more money or any title to be anything
other than a revit drafter- never..



born into architecture five years ago
and raised on revit

[Anonymous]

time to go metric like the rest of us...........:-)

[Anonymous]

Its not about the Revit programmers having difficulty comprehending. It's
the fact that you have done AutoCAD for years, which is not based upon
feet/inches or metric system, but is based upon a "unit" of measure. Typing
20 can be 20 inches or feet or millimeters or kilometers or....part of the
reason why there is issues in AutoCAD converting from Imperial to metric,
and why drawings have to be scaled 22.54. Or why when I got a file from my
civil engineer I had to always scale it up 12 times because he worked in
decimal feet and I worked in feet and inches.

Revit uses real-world dimensions, and no scaling or scale factors are
invloved. Draw something 20", and its 20 inches. Draw something 20mm, and
it will draw it 20 millimeters. Revit defaults to feet for data input
because most units of measure concerning a building start out as feet. Of
course as you refine the design, inches become useful.

In Revit, 20 means feet. but you can also use the following:

20 6 means 20 feet 6 inches (which btw is alot less keystrokes than 20'-6")
20-6 also means 20 feet 6 inches. i find this useful when using a 10-key
pad for numerical entry
0-20 means 20 inches
20" means 20 inches
0 20.625 means 20 5/8 inches
0-20.625 means 20 5/8 inches
1 6 5/8 means 1 foot 6 and 5/8 inches
1-6.625 means 1 foot 6 and 5/8 inches
1-6 5/8 means 1 foot 6 and 5/8 inches
20mm means 20 millimeters (even if you are in an imperial project)
200cm means 200cm

I could go on but hopefully this helps you see that the Revit system is far
easier and far more flexible than the AutoCAD method. Yes it takes some
getting used to, but so did using ESC instead of Ctrl-C to cancel a command
when AutoCAD went from r12 to r13/r14 for Windows.


wrote in message news:6331750@discussion.autodesk.com...
Matt,
Thanks, it helps a little. *Most* annoying every time I tried to move a
column or wall and forgot the inch mark.

I'm sure you see that 0 20 is twice the number of keystrokes of 20.
Just wondering why an ARCH unit setting is seemingly so difficult for the
Revit programmers to comprehend. I know it'd really help me out on the
transitioning process. Don't know if I'm alone here.

Best regards,
David Kozina



"Matt Dillon" wrote in message
news:6331701@discussion.autodesk.com...
David,

You can't change the default units to inches, however you don't need the
shift key either.

you can input distances like this: 10 6 1/2, which will be read as 10'-6
1/2".

So to move something 20 inches, you can input 0 20.

--

wrote in message news:6331655@discussion.autodesk.com...
Could someone please direct me to a simple option setting so that I can
enter default distance values as INCH units, instead of feet?

I would find it *really* nice to move a wall over, say, 20, and not find it
on the neighbor's lawn.

Do the programmers at Autodesk realize that that little inch mark requires a
SHIFT on most keyboards that I've seen?

More than sufficiently cheesed just thinking about it,
David Kozina

[Anonymous]

Scott,

Methinks you miss my point.

Feet marks have never been an obstacle for me to type in - they don't slow
me down. Inch marks, (or additional characters), however, DO slow me down,
which is the reason for my post. (And all the more so, whenever I forget
them and mess up, then have to UNDO and redo whatever modification I was
attempting to make (including the reselecting of all the objects
involved...) -- I find that this really eats up ALOT of time.)

I'm asking why a simple option to allow me to enter default distances in
INCHES does not exist, something that would make transitioning to Revit less
frustrating, and would reduce typing overall. Seems like a win-win to me.
And all the more so, if the intent is to draw AutoCAD users over to the dark
side, and provide them with better interface behavioral commonality between
the two programs. Do the programmers comprehend THAT?

I'd probably find it nice sometimes to be able set the default distance
entry BACK AND FORTH between Feet OR Inches as needed, with Revit able to
use such real-world distances without the scaling problems you mention.

I can only speak for myself, but please keep in mind as well that I'd really
like to learn to be proficient in BOTH programs (and will likely have to use
both for the forseeable future) - so this sort of interface disconnect
serves to work against that, does it not?

In the short term, I will try to remember Matt D's suggestion to include a
0 before my distances. I'll try to get used to it, but don't expect
me to like it, since I know it could be better.

Thanks, at least, for responding.

Regards,
David Kozina

[Anonymous]

I totally understand where you are coming from. Making the transistion from
AutoCAD to Revit can be difficult. I started in AutoCAD 9 and Revit 1.0.
Revit 1.0 did not have keyboard shortcuts...drove me nuts! Yes it would be
nice to have a toggle, although Revit has defaulted to feet since it's
inception. It's just one of those things we get used to. I was just glad
Revit didn't have data entry like @6'-6 3/4">45 like AutoCAD.

"if the intent is to draw AutoCAD users over to the dark side"....I could
make the argument that you are on the dark side in AutoCAD 🙂


"David Kozina" wrote in message
news:6332611@discussion.autodesk.com...
Scott,

Methinks you miss my point.

Feet marks have never been an obstacle for me to type in - they don't slow
me down. Inch marks, (or additional characters), however, DO slow me down,
which is the reason for my post. (And all the more so, whenever I forget
them and mess up, then have to UNDO and redo whatever modification I was
attempting to make (including the reselecting of all the objects
involved...) -- I find that this really eats up ALOT of time.)

I'm asking why a simple option to allow me to enter default distances in
INCHES does not exist, something that would make transitioning to Revit less
frustrating, and would reduce typing overall. Seems like a win-win to me.
And all the more so, if the intent is to draw AutoCAD users over to the dark
side, and provide them with better interface behavioral commonality between
the two programs. Do the programmers comprehend THAT?

I'd probably find it nice sometimes to be able set the default distance
entry BACK AND FORTH between Feet OR Inches as needed, with Revit able to
use such real-world distances without the scaling problems you mention.

I can only speak for myself, but please keep in mind as well that I'd really
like to learn to be proficient in BOTH programs (and will likely have to use
both for the forseeable future) - so this sort of interface disconnect
serves to work against that, does it not?

In the short term, I will try to remember Matt D's suggestion to include a
0 before my distances. I'll try to get used to it, but don't expect
me to like it, since I know it could be better.

Thanks, at least, for responding.

Regards,
David Kozina

[Anonymous]

On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:09:51 -0800, Scott D Davis
wrote:

>I was just glad Revit didn't have data entry like @6'-6 3/4">45 like AutoCAD.

Really? 'Cause I could really use that.

Matt
matt@stachoni.com

[Anonymous]

Hmm...just start a point, move in the direction/angle you want to go, (temp
angular dimension will show the angle) then type in the distance.

"Matt Stachoni" <...> wrote in message
news:6333226@discussion.autodesk.com...
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:09:51 -0800, Scott D Davis

wrote:

>I was just glad Revit didn't have data entry like @6'-6 3/4">45 like
>AutoCAD.

Really? 'Cause I could really use that.

Matt
matt@stachoni.com

[Anonymous]

On 2/9/2010 11:09 AM, Scott D Davis wrote:
> I was just glad
> Revit didn't have data entry like @6'-6 3/4">45 like AutoCAD.

Point or option keyword required.

Sorry, couldn't resist.
.-)

Oh, and it's <

K, I'm done nitpicking...

[Anonymous]

On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:22:46 -0800, Scott D Davis
wrote:

>Hmm...just start a point, move in the direction/angle you want to go, (temp
>angular dimension will show the angle) then type in the distance.

I'm not saying direct distance entry is not useful (or that I do not know how to
use it). But there are plenty of times when I wish I could enter relative
coordinates directly by hand instead of using the keyboard and mouse. If I'm
laying out complex walls (esp. ones that do not lie along a nice even angle)
from a hand sketch, keying them manually can actually be faster.

Maybe consider it a wish list item.

Matt
matt@stachoni.com

[Anonymous]

Unless I am missing something, try this.
Manage > Project Units > Length > Units

Change it to Fractional Inches. Now when you key-in 20, it means 20 inches

Then you can setup your dimension style, units format to NOT use project settings (remove the check) and you are set.

[Anonymous]

Unless I am missing something, try this.
Manage > Project Units > Length > Units

Change it to Fractional Inches. Now when you key-in 20, it means 20 inches

Then you can setup your dimension style, units format to NOT use project settings (remove the check) and you are set.

[Anonymous]

That will work nicely - only downside is that temporary dimensions will show
in purely inches format. But if you don't mind that, it'll work.

Myself - I've not found the switch to default feet units to be a problem at
all. It's no more trouble to enter 0 6 or 6" in Revit than it is to enter 1'
in AutoCAD .

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"wileyetucker" wrote in message news:6334804@discussion.autodesk.com...
Unless I am missing something, try this.
Manage > Project Units > Length > Units

Change it to Fractional Inches. Now when you key-in 20, it means 20 inches

Then you can setup your dimension style, units format to NOT use project
settings (remove the check) and you are set.

[Anonymous]

Wiley,
Again, THANK YOU!
I believe this might do the trick.

Best regards,
David Kozina


wrote in message news:6334803@discussion.autodesk.com...
Unless I am missing something, try this.
Manage > Project Units > Length > Units

Change it to Fractional Inches. Now when you key-in 20, it means 20 inches

Then you can setup your dimension style, units format to NOT use project
settings (remove the check) and you are set.