to tack on....
Consider 'upgrading' your AutoCAD licenses to Revit Series, where you will
get AutoCAD (vanilla) 2005 and Revit 6.1 together, for a very steep
discount. That way you can begin to use Revit, but still have AutoCAD for
the older work. (I think it costs about $400 extra, over the cost of the
single license to get both...contact your reseller for actual pricing.)
SD
"Jeff Hanson" wrote in message
news:412e437b$1_2@newsprd01...
> Our office is in the process of switching over to Revit. We are a small
> office of 6 people doing renovation and new work on multi-family housing
and
> general commercial work. we found ourselves looking to Revit when it
first
> came out as a way for us to increase productivity, coordination, and (at
the
> time) produce 3d rendered work. We are still moving to Revit as an office
> however I have been very impressed with both ADT 2004 and 2005. In terms
if
> fixing users bad habits, I am not sure Revit is the panacea. However when
> working with Revit since you are constructing a model from parametric
> components there is less of an opportunity for the end user to do things
> there own way since they are working with predefined "parts" if you will.
> This does mean however someone has to be incharge of providing good
"parts"
> to use. Lots of library management issues here. For example I am the
last
> person in our office to start using Revit even though I am the kind of
> defacto CAD manager, and I have quickly become frustrated and overwhelmed
by
> the family libraries and family creation. The others in our office have
had
> no real organization or approach to family creation and it seems to be a
big
> mess right now. That being said Revit has increased our productivity on
the
> projects we use it on. I am amazed how quickly a scheme can be put into
the
> system and get real results you can show clients. Then taking that
project
> to construction documents takes no time at all. A lot of the work is
already
> done for you or is very easy to create. As for Revit being more
compatible
> with engineers I don't think that is really the case. I would agree
getting
> engineers to use Object enabler is a lost cause but the export to plain
DWG
> is very smooth in ADT 2004 and 2005. Revit also exports to DWG very
easily.
> I don't think ADT requires subscription but whether you go to Revit or ADT
I
> would consider going to subscription. Just simplifies these upgrade
issues
> a lot and you don't need to worry about becoming outdated. (using ADT1 you
> most certainly are, that was really not even functional as a 3d Building
> modeler). With allthat I will leave you with this, our office still has
> Revit and ADT on our workstations, the people who have used Revit for a
> longer period of time will not even think of starting a project in ADT. I
> have only done one project in Revit and am still a lot more comfortable
with
> ADT. I have some trouble with the Revit interface because I like the new
> ADT 2004/2005 interface a lot, and revit seems a bit dated in comparison.
> With a few updates to the interface I think I would stop using ADT in our
> office as well. I would also like to see revit incorporate a stronger
> rendering engine. I think VIZ render included with ADT 2004/2005 produces
> much stronger renderings. It is really hard for someone else to tell you
> one software product will be the solution for you. You really have to
> evaluate them for your selfand ask questions about what your needs are and
> how different software can address those needs. Any software will have
it's
> own set of problems and good things. Hope this info helps point you in
the
> right direction.
>
> Jeff Hanson
>
> "DH" wrote in message news:412e0cd0_1@newsprd01...
> > Small office, 90% tenant fitup, CAD users with extremely bad habits
> > (including boss). No concept of layers, paper space, exploded
dimensions,
> > etc. Using ADT1 (we have ADT 3.3) as ACAD on Windows 2000, even though
> it's
> > unsupported and causes printing problems. Periodic lip service to
> upgrading,
> > but these users are very resistant to change. I want to switch to Revit,
> > because I expect it will force users into proper habits better than an
> ACAD
> > based ADT will (I can just see them buying new workstations and ADT
> > software, then continuing in same bad habits.
> > How do I convince my boss, who is unlikely to sit through demo, that
Revit
> > is easier to learn and MORE compatible with engineers ACAD than ADT
(I've
> > had big problems with OE in the past)? AFAIK, none are using Building
> > Services, but they might. Any prospect of that for Revit? A couple of
> years
> > ago I almost convinced him because of fear of ADT dead-end, but that
> doesn't
> > seem to apply anyomore. Also need to consider relative cost. Not sure if
> > current ADT "requires" subscription or not.
> >
> >
>
>
