Symbolic Lines? creating a hidden symb. lines? Casework?

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From what I gather symbolic lines only show up in the view you draw them in. So what i'm doing is creating a casework library for my projects. I model them in Revit, define all the parameters that need adjustablilty, and disable the visibility of the model objects in plan.... but visible in every other view (I want to eliminate as much linework as possible). Then I draw symbolic lines in plan to represent the casework outline. I have a eat-in counter that the countertop extends say 12" out. I want to show the cabinet line below as hidden but I cant seem to find a hidden line option when drawing symbolic lines. Can this be done?

Also, as I explained above how I am creating my casework... is that the proper way to do it or is there a simpler way? I am basically drawing it twice, actually modeling the casework and then drawing the symbolic lines in 2D. I dont know if I am doing more than is needed by adding the 2d lines in plan or is that how most of you normally do it?

TIA!

[Anonymous]

Yes, you are doing it correctly, and if you open some of the casework that
comes with Revit, you'll see it's the same way. Remember, you don't have to
'draw' the lines over again, you can use the "pick" tool and simply pick the
solids where you want symbolic lines. If a 'hidden' linetype is not
available, go to Settings >Linetypes, and create one.


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From what I gather symbolic lines only show up in the view you draw them in.
So what i'm doing is creating a casework library for my projects. I model
them in Revit, define all the parameters that need adjustablilty, and
disable the visibility of the model objects in plan.... but visible in every
other view (I want to eliminate as much linework as possible). Then I draw
symbolic lines in plan to represent the casework outline. I have a eat-in
counter that the countertop extends say 12" out. I want to show the cabinet
line below as hidden but I cant seem to find a hidden line option when
drawing symbolic lines. Can this be done?

Also, as I explained above how I am creating my casework... is that the
proper way to do it or is there a simpler way? I am basically drawing it
twice, actually modeling the casework and then drawing the symbolic lines in
2D. I dont know if I am doing more than is needed by adding the 2d lines in
plan or is that how most of you normally do it?

TIA!

[Lumbar_Puncture]

oh no way!? I can do that? Scott, say I use the pick tool to pick my symbolic lines.... will those symbolic lines follow the solid object if I stretch/move it around? Same for drawing a line? or will I need to lock the lines to the solid?

Btw, can casework, I guess I should say "families" snap automatically to each other? for example, if I change the size of a base cabinet (width/plan), currently I need to manually adjust the locations of the cabinet so they are aligned correctly. Is there a way somehow lock the adjacent cabinets so if their width is adjusted the rest of the cabinets move along with it? Currently if the width is set larger then the cabinet extends into the adjacent cabs... if the width is shortened then there is a gap between adjacent cabs.

Forgot to say thanks! Message was edited by: Lumbar_Puncture

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I just tried to go into Settings> Linetype (actually "Line Styles") but it is greyed out (inactive). The only styles I can choose from are:


casework [cut]
casework [projection]
elevation swing [cut]
elevation swing [projection]

Can this list be modified?

[Anonymous]

Yes, sorry, under Settings>Object Styles

wrote in message news:4899786@discussion.autodesk.com...
I just tried to go into Settings> Linetype (actually "Line Styles") but it
is greyed out (inactive). The only styles I can choose from are:


casework [cut]
casework [projection]
elevation swing [cut]
elevation swing [projection]

Can this list be modified?

[Anonymous]

"oh no way!? I can do that? Scott, say I use the pick tool to pick my
symbolic lines.... will those symbolic lines follow the solid object if I
stretch/move it around?"

Yes, check to see that "lock" is selected in the Options Bar before picking,
then the lock automatically upon picking.

"Same for drawing a line? or will I need to lock the lines to the solid?"

See above!

"Btw, can casework, I guess I should say "families" snap automatically to
each other? for example, if I change the size of a base cabinet
(width/plan), currently I need to manually adjust the locations of the
cabinet so they are aligned correctly. Is there a way somehow lock the
adjacent cabinets so if their width is adjusted the rest of the cabinets
move along with it? Currently if the width is set larger then the cabinet
extends into the adjacent cabs... if the width is shortened then there is a
gap between adjacent cabs."

Yes, if the Cabinets are aligned and locked to each other, changing one
should make the others move accordingly.

[Lumbar_Puncture]

Tried all that youve recommended below and they all work great. Once again thanks!

[Anonymous]

I hope it is ok that I am piggy backing on this discussion.  I have created a new blind-reach corner cabinet family by using one of the revit library corner cabinets as the starter template.  In elevation view everything looks good, but in plan view the symbolic line of the old corner cabinet is still visible and does not relate to the new blind-reach cabinet shape.  I can't figure out how to view this symbolic line from within the family in order to delete it or modify it.  In all views from inside the family the "symbolic line" tool is greyed out.   Any guidance would be appreciated.