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Schedule Color Schemes

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04-19-2012 09:08 AM

A number of posts skirt around the issue of color and schedules, but none seem to address the subject of being able to wholly format a schedule with color.  I originally posted on the Wikihelp site asking what was the point of being able to color 'calculated fields' in schedule views if this was not carried through to sheet views.  As an Architect whose output is mostly the sheet views, I would wish them to be as clear as possible in order that my design intentions are communicated to any 3rd party.  Therefore I would firstly wish that the coloured schedule fields present in a schedule view can be transposed to the sheet view.

My current thinking is that the the issue of coloring should be extended to comprehensively format a schedule such that fields, rows and columns etc can be emphasised by having coloured backgrounds.  The issue of border and grid colours has already been discussed and is possible, I understand, but text colouring would also be a bonus in schedules.

This is not a plea to make schedules pretty, but to make them as clear as possible.  Large schedules can be easily misinterpreted, more so when read from a screen.

What do others think?

Andrew Robertson
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Robertson Partnership
Truro. UK
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Re: Schedule Color Schemes

04-21-2012 05:14 PM in reply to: IMCornish

I think the developers thought that, most of the times, construction documents are printed in black and white, or, that this is a feature for the project manager to be used internally, in order to see if certain elements comply with certain limits, but not something to be printed at the end. I don't know, it is hard to determine the reason why the color in cells with conditional format don't print in color.

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Re: Schedule Color Schemes

04-21-2012 07:09 PM in reply to: Alfredo_Medina

"construction documents are printed in black and white"

 

Exactly what I said, but it didn't make it to print. lol

 

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Re: Schedule Color Schemes

04-22-2012 10:02 PM in reply to: IMCornish

intelligent question and 'food for thought' for autodesk developers.

This is what we say 'evolving process' for a software.

Revit will be a powerful tools if they implement few good suggestions in coming releases.

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Re: Schedule Color Schemes

04-23-2012 03:24 AM in reply to: parveen.revit

Since when have construction documents been printed in Black and White?!  What century are you guys from?  Is the world Black and White, no, think how much clearer things are in colour.  In the UK we have been using colour in construction drawings since the computer revolution began.  Come on, it seems a poor excuse to say that the developers thought that construction documents were in black and white, they must be very poor communicators if they did and wouldn't a little bit of thoughtful innovation been more like a developer.  As for 'project managers' , have they completelly taken over the world and the Architects or Designers role, I sincerely hope not or I might as well give up now.  Sorry for the rant!

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Re: Schedule Color Schemes

04-23-2012 03:35 AM in reply to: IMCornish

I know that sometimes plans are printed in color, but during my experience in architectural offices, only the presentation boards were printed in color, not the set of construction documents. So, we are from this century, (and the previous one), but putting color on paper is still expensive.

 

Some other people say that printed sets of sheets are going to disappear, and everything will be in a computer screen; in that case, the expense of printing in color won't be a problem, and then, the issue of not being able to print the color of the conditional formatting in schedules won't be an issue, either.

 

As I said, I don't know the exact reasons. That is a question for Autodesk.

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Re: Schedule Color Schemes

04-23-2012 03:47 AM in reply to: Alfredo_Medina

Sorry Alfredo, just me getting excited.  I should have made it clear that I no longer see printing as 'paper' but emailed sheet sets.  Try not to print anything on paper if I can help it!

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Re: Schedule Color Schemes

04-23-2012 07:25 AM in reply to: IMCornish

Andrew,

 

I completely agree that Schedule color should be available on Sheets--so if you NEED to, you can CHOOSE to print in color, or black and white.

 

As a workaround with the current limitations, you can print an image of the Schedule showing color, and then place the image in a view on a Sheet. Not very "real-time / BIM" for sure--but it can work if you absolutely need to show color

in the Schedule.

 

cheers

Cliff B. Collins
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Thalden Boyd Emery Architects
St. Louis, MO
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Re: Schedule Color Schemes

04-23-2012 07:55 AM in reply to: ccollins

There are some brilliant minds at work here.  I like the workaround but it would, of course, be  restricted currently to the very limited use of colour availible to us for schedules. However it may be that the developers could first tackle the further addition of colour to the schedule view and follow on with presenting it in sheets, thanks Cliff. 

Andrew Robertson
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Re: Schedule Color Schemes

04-24-2012 03:39 AM in reply to: IMCornish

Another thought came to me in the wee small hours and that is that Revit gives plenty of opportunity to use colour in sheet views ranging from colored views, elevation and the like, including 'colour schemes' for room layouts etc, as well as the ability to include renderings and images on them.  Schedules seem to be the poor relation?

Andrew Robertson
Chartered Architect
Robertson Partnership
Truro. UK
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