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Room Schedule not listing all rooms

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Anonymous
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Room Schedule not listing all rooms

I'm using the room schedule function to generate a list of elevators. I'm filtering the schedule so that it only displays 'rooms' named "Elevator". This sort of works, but the schedule is randomly omitting some of the room tags. I've eliminated all the obvious problems (mispellings, different room tag type, unenclosed room), but I am unable to get the missing room tags to display. Any thoughts?

Related topic: We had to use normal room tags to name our elevators. Hence, we have to number the elevators with a sub-letter for each level so that Revit can handle the tags. Is there any better way to deal with vertical transportation issues like this (stairs, elevators, etc.)?

Thanks,
Sarah
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Message 2 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I'm not sure I understand or there is some confusion in terminology.
You are not able to get some of the tags to display? Tags are just visual
representations on a sheet. Are the tags on the plan what is missing? Or the
name in the schedule?

Each room has a level associated with it. So if you have an elevator "room"
on each level, you should be able to skip the sub-letter in your ID. How is
the sub-letter done? With a separate parameter? If it is just part of the
name - that might be what is keeping your rooms from showing up in the
filtered schedule.

On a more general note: What are you trying to accomplish with this
schedule? Finishes? Areas? Equipment?

wrote in message news:5131491@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm using the room schedule function to generate a list of elevators. I'm
filtering the schedule so that it only displays 'rooms' named "Elevator".
This sort of works, but the schedule is randomly omitting some of the room
tags. I've eliminated all the obvious problems (mispellings, different room
tag type, unenclosed room), but I am unable to get the missing room tags to
display. Any thoughts?

Related topic: We had to use normal room tags to name our elevators. Hence,
we have to number the elevators with a sub-letter for each level so that
Revit can handle the tags. Is there any better way to deal with vertical
transportation issues like this (stairs, elevators, etc.)?

Thanks,
Sarah
Message 3 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

The name in the schedule is what's missing. The tags exist in the plans, but some (but not all) of them are not making the transfer into the schedule list. Even after I made the change you suggested (deleted the sub-letter, which was part of the room number), I still have the same problem.

I have 13 elevators. Four of them are unwilling to display in the schedule, despite being named "Elevator", just like all the others.

What I want to accomplish: we're still in DD, and in the past I've provided a little excel spreadsheet in the drawing set to provide condensed information about the elevators. Where they are, cab size, hoistway, front/rear openings, comments as to whether they're traction, hydraulic, glass, etc. It will disappear at CDs.

Any assistance is appreciated - thanks!
Message 4 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Do you have "Itemized Every Instance" checked in your schedule? That would
do it.

I'd personally use an equipment schedule for the elevator. I just import one
of Otis' DWG's into a Revit family and place that as needed. I can attach
and schedule information that way.

wrote in message news:5131780@discussion.autodesk.com...
The name in the schedule is what's missing. The tags exist in the plans, but
some (but not all) of them are not making the transfer into the schedule
list. Even after I made the change you suggested (deleted the sub-letter,
which was part of the room number), I still have the same problem.

I have 13 elevators. Four of them are unwilling to display in the schedule,
despite being named "Elevator", just like all the others.

What I want to accomplish: we're still in DD, and in the past I've provided
a little excel spreadsheet in the drawing set to provide condensed
information about the elevators. Where they are, cab size, hoistway,
front/rear openings, comments as to whether they're traction, hydraulic,
glass, etc. It will disappear at CDs.

Any assistance is appreciated - thanks!
Message 5 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Unchecking "Itemized Every Instance" gets rid of all the duplicates, but still does not bring in the 4 mystery missing tags.

I'll check out the equipment schedule (after our issue deadline this friday!).

thanks!
Message 6 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Are you using design options or phases?

wrote in message news:5131929@discussion.autodesk.com...
Unchecking "Itemized Every Instance" gets rid of all the duplicates, but
still does not bring in the 4 mystery missing tags.

I'll check out the equipment schedule (after our issue deadline this
friday!).

thanks!
Message 7 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

No, I'm not.
Message 8 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Room schedules are designed to deal with rooms - spaces bounded by walls and
room-bounding lines. If you trying to use them to schedule elevators then
your problems may be related to (a) your elevators not being on a particular
storey level and/or (b) elevators not being bounded by walls. Besides Revit
may be trying to outsmart you by recognizing that elevators require holes in
floors and not attributing a positive area space to these holes. Aaron
suggested to use specialty equipment schedule. That sounds like a reasonable
suggestion. In you use of Revit try to use real world analogies, where
elevators are not really rooms.

wrote in message news:5131958@discussion.autodesk.com...
No, I'm not.
Message 9 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

In my humble experience Elevators are rooms in the sense that they have floors, four or more walls, ceiling, lights, and so in other words are customizable elements. So even though they fall under CSI Masterformat Division 14 Conveying Equipment, their cabs can also be considered customizable under 142700 - so their cabs anyways should be able to be scheduled as rooms. We recently made a parametric elevator family on a project, to back check some lighting and wonder with Revit 2014, what you recommend for both tagging numbers for different Elevators, and also for scheduling each elevator's cabs finishes.

 

Message 10 of 11
damo3
in reply to: Anonymous

As mentioned, the best way to do this is to use an Equipment schedule, mechanical schedule or similar. That way you are scheduling the family, not rooms. Scheduling a custom parameter from your Revit family is much easier and will give you I think, the outcome you are after. You can schedule by Type Comments, description or any other custom parameter you may wish to create. 

 

Petersen, I would disagree as rooms in the traditional sense, don't move up and down a building. A room is associated with a level. To document finishes, my elevator family has custom parameters for all 4 sides, floor & ceiling. We use the mark or type mark parameter for identification. I simply fill in this information so it populates a schedule.

 

Again, if you move away from rooms (I would use them simply to identify lift spaces in your documentation plans/sections), this scheduling task is fairly straight forward. Also, don't forget the benefits of having all this data in a typical lift you may use associated with a typical lift schedule in your template/library. Rooms on the other hand are recreated for every project.  


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Message 11 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Leonid Raiz - can you let us know if you play a musical instrument, and if so which one?

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