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Reza001
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REVIT SYSTEM AND REVIT BUILDING

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03-21-2007 07:12 AM
One without the Other is not Useful

Unfortunately many A/E and Even Autodesk representative themselves announce that Revit Systems is not ready to be used together with Revit Building.

First, I would like to know, if this announcement by Autodesk is on purpose to help continue sale of their Architectural Desktop.

Second, my feeling for suggesting my comment above, is that I believe at the very least for HVAC purpose for Buildings, Revit Systems is ready for use by MEP firms.

Autodesk by its announcing that Revit Systems is not ready and it is just in its early releases has created and provided the excuse for MEP firms to use ADT on top of Revit Building. This solution package has created for a very bad start for Launching BIM in the industry, for A/E industry, the Facility Manager, Contractor, the Owner, and pretty much all the stakeholders.
*C Ryan
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Re: REVIT SYSTEM AND REVIT BUILDING

03-21-2007 07:40 AM in reply to: Reza001
Can you provide a link to where you saw this announcement from Autodesk?


wrote in message news:5525808@discussion.autodesk.com...
One without the Other is not Useful

Unfortunately many A/E and Even Autodesk representative themselves announce
that Revit Systems is not ready to be used together with Revit Building.

First, I would like to know, if this announcement by Autodesk is on purpose
to help continue sale of their Architectural Desktop.

Second, my feeling for suggesting my comment above, is that I believe at the
very least for HVAC purpose for Buildings, Revit Systems is ready for use by
MEP firms.

Autodesk by its announcing that Revit Systems is not ready and it is just in
its early releases has created and provided the excuse for MEP firms to use
ADT on top of Revit Building. This solution package has created for a very
bad start for Launching BIM in the industry, for A/E industry, the Facility
Manager, Contractor, the Owner, and pretty much all the stakeholders.
Active Member
Reza001
Posts: 10
Registered: ‎03-21-2007
Message 3 of 10 (194 Views)

Re: REVIT SYSTEM AND REVIT BUILDING

03-21-2007 07:45 AM in reply to: Reza001
The Announcement happened at a Revit User Group in Washington DC Region.
*C Ryan
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Re: REVIT SYSTEM AND REVIT BUILDING

03-21-2007 07:59 AM in reply to: Reza001
By whom?

wrote in message news:5525867@discussion.autodesk.com...
The Announcement happened at a Revit User Group in Washington DC Region.
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Reza001
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Message 5 of 10 (194 Views)

Re: REVIT SYSTEM AND REVIT BUILDING

03-21-2007 08:02 AM in reply to: Reza001
Hi Ryan,

Please let me know if you are with Autodesk
*C Ryan
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Re: REVIT SYSTEM AND REVIT BUILDING

03-21-2007 08:06 AM in reply to: Reza001
No I'm a cad manager at an Architectural firm in Dallas, TX.

wrote in message news:5525903@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Ryan,

Please let me know if you are with Autodesk
*Brian
Message 7 of 10 (194 Views)

Re: REVIT SYSTEM AND REVIT BUILDING

03-21-2007 08:16 AM in reply to: Reza001
"excuse for MEP firms to use ADT on top of Revit Building"
did you mean ADT or ABS?

Isn't the only main deficiency in revit MEP/Systems currently the lack of
substantial stock content - however this can all be created by the user.
and typically the stock content only gets one started. the user should
develop their own families based on their needs in order to take full
advantage of the full automation of the software. the design professional,
not Autodesk, should be the author of the building's Information - right?

please, someone correct me if i am wrong.

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wrote in message news:5525808@discussion.autodesk.com...
One without the Other is not Useful

Unfortunately many A/E and Even Autodesk representative themselves announce
that Revit Systems is not ready to be used together with Revit Building.

First, I would like to know, if this announcement by Autodesk is on purpose
to help continue sale of their Architectural Desktop.

Second, my feeling for suggesting my comment above, is that I believe at the
very least for HVAC purpose for Buildings, Revit Systems is ready for use by
MEP firms.

Autodesk by its announcing that Revit Systems is not ready and it is just in
its early releases has created and provided the excuse for MEP firms to use
ADT on top of Revit Building. This solution package has created for a very
bad start for Launching BIM in the industry, for A/E industry, the Facility
Manager, Contractor, the Owner, and pretty much all the stakeholders.
Active Member
Reza001
Posts: 10
Registered: ‎03-21-2007
Message 8 of 10 (194 Views)

Re: REVIT SYSTEM AND REVIT BUILDING

03-21-2007 08:22 AM in reply to: Reza001
Hi Ryan,

I was just on the phone with AutoDesk, they are clarifying and correcting their statement about Revit System. By the way the New release will be out in April and all AutoDesk Products are going through a name change. Revit MEP is ready for HVAC use.

The New AutoDesk Product Names are;

• AutoCAD® 2008
• AutoCAD LT® 2008
• AutoCAD® Architecture 2008 (Arch Desktop)
• Revit® Architecture 2008
• AutoCAD® Revit® Architecture Suite 2008
• AutoCAD® MEP 2008
• AutoCAD® Revit® MEP Suite 2008
• Revit® Structure 2008 Sales Toolkit
• AutoCAD® Revit® Structure Suite 2008
• AutoCAD® Civil 3D® 2008
• AutoCAD® Land Desktop 2008
• AutoCAD® Map 3D 2008
• AutoCAD® Raster Design 2008
Active Member
Reza001
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Registered: ‎03-21-2007
Message 9 of 10 (194 Views)

Re: REVIT SYSTEM AND REVIT BUILDING

03-21-2007 08:26 AM in reply to: Reza001
I agree with you, actually we have small Engineering Firms that are already providing MEP in Revit Systems.

The small MEP firms we are using are looking for Architects that they can team up with so they can provide more MEP work in Revit System.
*david
Message 10 of 10 (194 Views)

Re: REVIT SYSTEM AND REVIT BUILDING

03-21-2007 10:55 AM in reply to: Reza001
Where are you guys located so that Architects using Revit in your area can
contact you?

--
David Ford
Eric Barker Architect, Inc.
881-3016 cell


wrote in message news:5525966@discussion.autodesk.com...
I agree with you, actually we have small Engineering Firms that are already
providing MEP in Revit Systems.

The small MEP firms we are using are looking for Architects that they can
team up with so they can provide more MEP work in Revit System.
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