Been having issues with my Revit export to DWG, Particularly pertaining to the Blocks that get exported from the Revit families….
I drew 4 walls of different types in my working file. I then placed the same door in each wall and exported it. when I opened the DWG all the door “blocks” that were made from the family had different names.
- Door 1 Block Name: "WRA_Single-Flush w HM Frame - 36_ x 84_-1231691-Export A-FP-01 _AR900_"
- Door 2 Block Name: "WRA_Single-Flush w HM Frame - 36_ x 84_-1231690-Export A-FP-01 _AR900_"
- Door 3 Block Name: "WRA_Single-Flush w HM Frame - 36_ x 84_-1231693-Export A-FP-01 _AR900_"
From what it looks like, when exported, Revit is naming the block by Family Name - Element ID - View Name. I have exported other files from other project files that follow the same format, but the “Element ID” numbers are the same. Either way, this is undesirable.
Is there any way to just have the family export as a block with just the family name. all these doors are the same and should be that same block when exported, not all the extra info.
HJM
Another example….
In walls 1, 2 & 3 all the doors were placed individually and when exported all have different names. at least the 7 digit number in the middle of the block name is different on each. see pervious post...
In walls 4, 5 & 6 the top door was placed individually, the lower 2 in each wall were copied down from the original. The top doors are all named different, the lower two on each wall are the same name (different from the original) per wall.
HJM
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Hello,
When I export our Revit models to AutoCAD, every single structural column comes with a different block name. This happens for doors and other Revit objects as well. So I have 20 instances of the same column in Revit, but in AutoCAD they are all different blocks with different names.
I am also desperately wondering if anyone came accross a workaround for this? Is there a way to have all the Revit objects exported as copies of the same block, with the same block name? I would really appreciate if any one can provide some further insight on this. The subject is very crucial to our work.
We're using Revit for certain tasks in the office and we deliver the construction documents in AutoCAD. Therefore, we frequently export our models to .DWG format. We have our own export settings to match with the CAD standards of the office, so the exported files match with our AutoCAD drawings without any problems.
As a matter of fact, when I export "M_Double C-Channel-Column - 2C380X74" steel columns they all come with the same block name in the exported .DWG (which is M_Double C-Channel-Column - 2C380X74-3223-Level 1). However, when I export "M_Concrete-Rectangular-Column - 300 x 450mm" concrete columns they all come with different block names such as:
M_Concrete-Rectangular-Column - 300 x 450mm-2600-Level 1
M_Concrete-Rectangular-Column - 300 x 450mm-V1-Level 1
M_Concrete-Rectangular-Column - 300 x 450mm-V2-Level 1
This was tested on a clean plan view, in a new project which I created without a template, where no other object was created but only 3 structural concrete columns.
Thanks in advance,
Gurhan
I'm thinking that if the Family Types have some instance parameters then the DWG exporter can'ty really know if they're all identical. That might explain why each instance is sometimes a different block. Haven't tested this theory.
I never used AutoCAD but I heard about 150 times from
CAD drafters that they can draw just as fast as Revit.
So why wouldn't a CAD drafter simply draw their OWN
doors and walls? Using a Revit printout for reference.
Seems like you would get everything exactly the way
you wanted it then.
Is there something I'm missing?
I figured out, when you export a view with structural concrete columns in Revit, the hatch of the column type causes this problem. It's because if you use a concrete hatch, all the column instances crop the hatch pattern in a non-identical manner. So here is a "parameter" cad export does not understand.
Ahhh the age old “Drafting” argument..... I date back the board drafting (pencil and Pen on paper)….. back then the argument was that they could draw It on the board faster that I could draw it in AutoCAD (v2.7). I would often agree until the changes came, at which point I would ask them, as I was leaving for lunch, what was taking them so long…..
I just got done teaching a class to some of our PM’s. I asked at the beginning of the class why some of them didn’t want to learn it. The consensus at the beginning of the class was that Revit takes longer, because you have to put in so much more information. At the end of the class I had a class of converts.
The real issue is that Revit is a Design tool, not a Drafting tool. If your designers are using Revit, the only reason to export it to CAD is because someone designer or engineer does not want to learn Revit. My office often has to export to DWG to meet a Client deliverable requirement. Or to send it to someone to a sub-consultant to use as a background.
Howard Munsell
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I know some Architects that would argue that with you on the “Not a Conceptual design tool” comment….
I’m not an Architect or an Engineer, just a lowly BIM support specialist and trainer, but there is a lot of Conceptual design that can be done utilizing Revit. Using the Massing, Design Option and other tools you can do quite a bit and once you have settled on a design, you can use that Mass as an intelligent basis of your model.
We have “Kid” we recently hired our of collage that only knows SketchUp. All he does is Conceptual design drawings for one of our architects. I can duplicate ANY of his designs in Revit using masses, have them just as malleable and have them actually be able to give information back. Then when the Concept is done, instead of having the architect have to redraw everything, they could use his Masses to continue their design.
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Why do you prefer this forum over the ones augi has maintainted for many years?
The only difference I can see is that here are some Autodesk employees, which is great. Also that it's much quieter here, try looking at the number of new posts here and there, also the number of unanswered or unsolved posts here. But I'll give it time and see what happens.
Well, many of the designers in our office use Sketchup for conceptual design because they can knock out many iterations of a concept model much faster than Revit can. They don't have the constraints that exist in Revit and it provides for a much freer environment to work in at the conceptual stage. I wish Autodesk understood this and would create or enhance the conceptual modelling of Revit. If they were smart about it, they could capture another large market and enhance everyones productivity in the process.
Check it out. Perhaps not quite as nimble as SU, esp. at first--but Adesk IS listening, and the Conceptual Massing
tools have improved drastically. You can even edit in Perspective in Vasari--which is a HUGE advance, esp. when trying to convert hardcore SU users. Raster images also are displayed in 3D views in Vasari--another big advantage.
You also have Energy Analysis tools built in. Vasari saves out .rfa and .rvt files, so it works well with Revit.
Soon Vasari will knock SU out of the office. New users who don't use SU, and begin learning Vasari love it
and do not have the "SU - vs - Revit - vs - Rhino, etc" attitude.
@duncan.lithgow wrote:
Why do you prefer this forum over the ones augi has maintainted for many years?
Well for one thing I really don't like that vBulletin software. But yes they have, (or had), all the high-level Revit
experts. Here we only have a handful, (except for the employees),
of Revit experts, and I'm not one of them.
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Thank god SketchUp has a completely different mentality. It doesn't matter how people use it in the offices, SketchUp has the ability to function like a very basic design tool such a pencil and paper. Vasari might catch a success in the future because of certain compatibility advantages but it cannot replace SketchUp, because SketchUp serves very different purposes: You can just play, think or mess around with it. This is something Autocad will never be able to do so.
Here is an example:
@GURUFUN wrote:
SketchUp
Absolutely, nothing can beat SketchUp for sketching on the computer
in 3D. More than half of architects use it. A SketchUp model can also
be rendered with V-Ray.
Does it beat a pencil and paper? That just depends on which way the
architect likes to do it.
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