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chiragdedhia
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Resize Text / Dimension with Change in Scale

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09-12-2005 03:25 AM
Is there a possibility where the text or dimensions would resize automatically when the scale of a view is changed? Like some scale factor applied, n the text/ dimensions could change whenever the scale of view is changed?
*Alek Sutulov
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Re: Resize Text / Dimension with Change in Scale

09-12-2005 05:27 AM in reply to: chiragdedhia
It does change over here!?


wrote in message news:4953044@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is there a possibility where the text or dimensions would resize
automatically when the scale of a view is changed? Like some scale factor
applied, n the text/ dimensions could change whenever the scale of view is
changed?
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sbrown
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Re: Resize Text / Dimension with Change in Scale

09-12-2005 05:46 AM in reply to: chiragdedhia
No, you would need to create a second dimstyle since revit text/annotations allways print the size specified, ie 1/8" text will allways be 1/8" regardless of scale(a beautiful thing isn't it). So you can easily make another size text, right click on a text note, select all and change it to the other size.
*Aaron Rumple
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Re: Resize Text / Dimension with Change in Scale

09-12-2005 05:49 AM in reply to: chiragdedhia
That is the only way Revit text and dimensions work. Imported AutoCAD
information, however is just "dumb", and does not change scale
automatically.

wrote in message news:4953044@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is there a possibility where the text or dimensions would resize
automatically when the scale of a view is changed? Like some scale factor
applied, n the text/ dimensions could change whenever the scale of view is
changed?
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chiragdedhia
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Message 5 of 14 (1,491 Views)

Re: Resize Text / Dimension with Change in Scale

09-12-2005 11:45 PM in reply to: chiragdedhia
hmm, initially whenever i changed the scale of view, i used to be under the impression that dim/text scales with it. But later noticed that it actually doesn't scale up/down.

sdbrown, the way u mentioned is the only quickest way available now. But thats not always possible coz the drawing generally has alot more text in the same size which may not need to be re-scaled.
The issue becomes grave when there r too many tags, and they go haywire with the change in scale of the view. And thts where u need to go into editing the tag family etc! And it becomes a pain, changing all over again, each time!

Anyways, i think its more of a wish item. If the scale of the text/dimensions also moves up / down in a percentage ratio which is in a way linked to the change in scale of the view, that would be jus excellent!

When u change 1:100 dwg to 1:50, u r scaling it up 2times. The dim/text shud scale twice as well !! Hope to see it in newer versions!
*Scott Davis
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Re: Resize Text / Dimension with Change in Scale

09-13-2005 09:41 AM in reply to: chiragdedhia
What you are asking for are text, dimensions, tags, etc., that actually
change 'plotted' size? Right now, these items do 'change' depending on the
scale of the view, but they change to remain the same size across all views.
So if a detail bubble is a 1/2" circle, it will always be a 1/2" circle no
matter the scale of the view.

Fundamentally what you are asking for goes against the underlying concepts
of views in Revit.

wrote in message news:4954200@discussion.autodesk.com...
hmm, initially whenever i changed the scale of view, i used to be under the
impression that dim/text scales with it. But later noticed that it actually
doesn't scale up/down.

sdbrown, the way u mentioned is the only quickest way available now. But
thats not always possible coz the drawing generally has alot more text in
the same size which may not need to be re-scaled.
The issue becomes grave when there r too many tags, and they go haywire with
the change in scale of the view. And thts where u need to go into editing
the tag family etc! And it becomes a pain, changing all over again, each
time!

Anyways, i think its more of a wish item. If the scale of the
text/dimensions also moves up / down in a percentage ratio which is in a way
linked to the change in scale of the view, that would be jus excellent!

When u change 1:100 dwg to 1:50, u r scaling it up 2times. The dim/text shud
scale twice as well !! Hope to see it in newer versions!
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chiragdedhia
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Message 7 of 14 (1,491 Views)

Re: Resize Text / Dimension with Change in Scale

09-14-2005 09:54 AM in reply to: chiragdedhia
Scott i get ur point! What i mean to say is something similar to what we have with Line Weights. For Line Weights, by jus changing the View Scale, we r automatically assigned a line weight And all this controlled by Settings>>Line Weights.

When i change the view of a plan, from say 1:100 to 1:50 or vice-versa, obviously i cant keep the tags, text or dimensions in the same style, as they were for the previous scale. I need to manually change them. It might be an underlying Concept. But while changing view-scales, it doesn't really help!
*Alek Sutulov
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Re: Resize Text / Dimension with Change in Scale

09-14-2005 12:00 PM in reply to: chiragdedhia
Annotations change here with the view scale as per attached images. However,
if you need to show the same area (view) in different scales, you need to
duplicate those views. Annotations are view dependent and will not interfere
with each other.


wrote in message news:4956283@discussion.autodesk.com...
Scott i get ur point! What i mean to say is something similar to what we
have with Line Weights. For Line Weights, by jus changing the View Scale, we
r automatically assigned a line weight And all this controlled by
Settings>>Line Weights.

When i change the view of a plan, from say 1:100 to 1:50 or vice-versa,
obviously i cant keep the tags, text or dimensions in the same style, as
they were for the previous scale. I need to manually change them. It might
be an underlying Concept. But while changing view-scales, it doesn't really
help!
*Irwin Jungreis
Message 9 of 14 (1,491 Views)

Re: Resize Text / Dimension with Change in Scale

09-14-2005 07:05 PM in reply to: chiragdedhia
Not sure what you mean by "When i change the view of a plan, from say 1:100 to 1:50 or vice-versa, obviously i cant keep the tags,
text or dimensions in the same style, as they were for the previous scale". The intention in Revit is that you DO keep them in the
same style. It is expected that there is a particular size of text that you want to appear on the plotted drawing, based on what is
readable, and that dimensions, text, etc., should be that size when plotted regardless of the scale of the view. Revit assures that
all annotations plot at the same size on the sheet regardless of the scale of the drawing. Isn't that what one would want to happen?


wrote in message news:4956283@discussion.autodesk.com...
Scott i get ur point! What i mean to say is something similar to what we have with Line Weights. For Line Weights, by jus changing
the View Scale, we r automatically assigned a line weight And all this controlled by Settings>>Line Weights.

When i change the view of a plan, from say 1:100 to 1:50 or vice-versa, obviously i cant keep the tags, text or dimensions in the
same style, as they were for the previous scale. I need to manually change them. It might be an underlying Concept. But while
changing view-scales, it doesn't really help!
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chiragdedhia
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Message 10 of 14 (1,491 Views)

Re: Resize Text / Dimension with Change in Scale

09-15-2005 01:03 AM in reply to: chiragdedhia
Let me try explaining one more time! Are u aware of the fact that Line Weights for each of 1 to 16(x), are scale specific!! To know more, Goto Settings Menu >> Line Weights. The entire dialog box shows how that line weight will be plotted in each view scale.

Now, if in the same manner, we could have a dialog box, representing that text of say "x" would be 5mm in 1:100 whereas 3mm in 1:200 and 7mm in 1:50.... Then we wouldn't need to go and change the text height after changing the scale of the view we are working in. That interface will take care of it, like the lineweights!!

Its not there in REVIT yet, but it would really save alot of manual effort of changing text/dim styles! This was the last attempt to explain!! :-)
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