On 2/27/2010 7:57 PM, Matt Stachoni wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:13:46 -0800, Dave Jones wrote:
>
>> my classes start next Monday, 3/8, so I have yet to be subjected to the
>> mind numbing 8 hr a day experience 🙂 I'm working with Revit 2010
>> tutorials every day and each day it makes a little more sense to me.
>
> That's an EXCELLENT plan. Going through the tutorials before the Essentials
> training is a good thing - it allows the instructor to concentrate on the lesson
> plan instead of incessently telling you to move the mouse, click the button, go
> to such-and-such tab/panel/tool, etc.
just going from my Acad classic workspace to the Revit ribbon has been
an adventure 🙂
>
>> It's going to be a difficult journey for me for awhile to get from 2D
>> Acad with no parametric experience to, well, Revit. One of the things
>> that I'm having a hard time getting my head around is how will I, when I
>> get to the point of using Revit for my everyday projects, get the finite
>> detail required by my discipline. I have spent my days for years with
>> Acad producing details with 5+ decimal points of accuracy. Revit just
>> seems so generalized, regarding detail to me. I'll get it, just takes time.
>
> Simple! Import your CAD file!! Or better yet, scan it, import it, and trace it
> in Revit! (BTW - that's a joke).
>
> You are right - modeling the building is a generic kind of thing. When you
> create details views of your model - wall sections and wall details form
> building sections, for example - you have simplistic graphics on top of which
> you draft 2D things to bring the actual detail to life.
I'm looking forward to being able to get to that point.
>
> The difference in Revit is that the drafting process is actually (IMO) much
> easier. The set of built-in detail components is exceptional. Creating repeating
> details and detail groups for things that are reused are simple to learn and
> insert.
>
> Masking regions are fantastically implemented in Revit; not only do the
> "wipeouts" actually WORK, but you have complete control over the individual
> linework pieces that makes up the masking region.
wipeouts that work. What a novel concept 🙂
>
> And if you download things like Kawneer's Revit families for their curtain wall
> systems, you will find that they are preloaded with high-quality mullion
> detailing which shows up at the fine detail level.
I've downloaded some of Kawneer's curtain wall BIM models and compared
to the level of detail that I'm used to outputting they are simply not
good enough. I feel like I'm working on an 8 square block 50 story high
building and I'm detailing a 1' square jewel box that is situated right
in the middle of the job. A very small part of the big picture but very
important to myself and my customer who has the task of ordering the
material for, fabricating, and installing the jewel box. The box is a
part of the model because it's a part of the project and it has physical
connection to the model which, while being important, is a small facet
of what information I need to make available in the model. I know that
I'm not the only one who requires this level accuracy and detail so I'm
sure it can be done in Revit. I just don't have my head around how to
make it happen yet. The process for me is in its infancy. I'll get it.
>
> Not only that, but you can leverage keynotes and textnotes which automatically
> fills in (and can schedule) the notes you would put into a typical detail.
yeah, I'm seeing that advantage already. Once set up properly it just
works for you behind the scenes.
>
> Matt
> matt@stachoni.com
thanks Matt (and Alfredo) for the direction and encouragement,
--
Dave - DDP
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