Problems switching between views

[Anonymous]

I have a question regarding a discrepancy of information when changing between views. As you will see in the screen cast when I view the model in 3D view the kitchen countertop is how I want it to look wrapping around the entire kitchen wall.
However, when I switch views and go to the plan view the kitchen countertop is completely different. As you will see it is shorter than what is showing in the 3d view.
Many thanks for any help in advance.

here is the link:http://screencast.com/t/Xhipu8SpI6

[constantin.stroescu]

Look in Family Editor > Visibility Settings.

More than sure that you have  Masking Region (Image 002) set to be seen in Plan View and the  model is seen only in 3d View and Elevations (Image001)

Image001

Image 002

[Anonymous]

   The PLAN/RCP was untick and i put the mark on it and the counter top changed in the plan view but not in total becouse in the edit family i have it as i want it but it still looking different on the plan and in the 3D view.

here is the link: http://screencast.com/t/BQjizwjHc9it

[constantin.stroescu]

but, what about the Masking Region ? Is it still in use?

In case that there is no masking region, can you send the countertop rfa file?

[Anonymous]

here is the file, thanks.

[constantin.stroescu]

As I supose it is a Mask Region that is L shaped and the 3d model is a U shaped...as can be seen below:

I erased the mask because I think that for this object it is not necessary and I've remade the family so to be attacehed to reference planes and to fit parameters.....See if it works for you ..

[Anonymous]

   Thanks so much for helping us out with this.  Your solution seems to work well.  We are still doing a little more research into how you got this to work so well and we may be back with a couple more specific questions on your solution in the very near future.  In the meantime thanks a million for your solution.

[Anonymous]

Sorry to ask you this but I am still a beginner on the Revit system.
As you know I inserted this family which brought the Mask Region into the drawing. The problem now is that I have no idea how to edit the Mask Region?

[constantin.stroescu]

You have to draw a Mask from :Annotate > Masking Region and align and lock its borders to Reference Planes. Then, set the visbility for 3d model and for the Masking Region , as can be seen in the screen recording:

https://chronicle.autodesk.com/main/details/43ec8741-e369-4976-8f44-1778d56ce9c2

[Anonymous]

Thanks once again for your help. Sorry to say that I still have some clarifications. 

I have moved on to another one of the countertops within the kitchen. As you will see from the screen cast it is L shape with a curved end.

In your screen cast I see how you create the masking region and lock it; but what I am still unclear about is how to modify and or delete it?

The reason why I need to know this is because I have started with a new family to create this newly curved countertop.

The problem as you will see on the screen cast is that the mask remains in the same original square shape. I think I either need to remove it or modify it to the new L shape countertop? How can this be achieved?

  here is the link:http://screencast.com/t/QiR0ay2l

[constantin.stroescu]

I saw the screencast..

Technicaly the edititing of the 3d model is corect , but the Mask Region has to be aligned and locked to it,

So, the right way is to work in floor plane :

1. Draw a serie of Reference Planes as you want the borders to be
2. Put Dimensions to Reference Planes
3. Apply Parameters to these Dimensions
4. Flex the parameters
5. draw the 3d model , aligning and locking to Reference Planes
6. draw the Mask Region , align and lock to Reference Planes
7. Set the Visibilty for 3d model and the Mask Region
8. Load into the Project

For a better understanding , see the AU lessons , especialy those of Paul Aubin

http://au.autodesk.com/au-online/classes-on-demand/class-catalog/2011/autodesk-revit-architecture/au...

[Anonymous]

Thanks so much for the post.

Sadly I am still none the wiser even after looking at some of the work by Paul Aubin. I guess I am going to have to return to the books and do a little more reading about the subject in order to understand exactly the points you are saying.

If you are kindly able to do a screen cast showing me you amend, edit, and delete the Mask Region that would be most helpful.
Thanks again so much for your help thus far.

[constantin.stroescu]

I'll try to make a recording ...

In the image below you can see how appear objects in Plan View with different Visibility settings made in Family Editor.

I hope this image will help you to understand why these masks and symbolic lines are necessary......they can make a simplified vie,more schematic  for plan views...

[Anonymous]

Thanks again for the response. Sadly I am still confused… all I need to do is understand how to delete or modify the Mask Region that comes in with the family.

I really appreciate the time you have spent but sadly I am no further forward. Perhaps I am still have the AutoCad mentality which means that I just can’t fathom this problem.

Can you do a screen cast showing how you modify or delete the Mask Region?

[constantin.stroescu]

I've attached a screencast. In my file there were only symbol lines ,no mask .That means that when placing in a plan view the countertop will let the floor patern to be seen inside its contour....

Can you send your .rfa file to make a screen cast on it?

https://chronicle.autodesk.com/Main/Details/f67533fc-0bab-473d-a276-e84b047cab06

[Anonymous]

FANTASTIC – the penny has dropped.

Thanks so much for being patient with me we now understand where we were going wrong!
Keep up the good work.