Problem when inserting a door family

[Anonymous]

Out side door pull will not stay in place in project view when family is loaded into wall thickness narrower than that used in family detail.

In family editor have tried pinning the pull and pinning its dimension. Cannot lock the dimension due to constraint error. Pull is dimensioned to ref plane at center of glass door. (Door is sliding glass adjacent to stationary glass panels.)

Any ideas greatly appreciated. 

[rosskirby]

Is the handle a nested family?  If not, you might want to consider making it one.  It's much easier to control the placement and constraint of a nested family than it is to control several separate modeled elements.

If it is a nested family, is it hosted? It appears to be flipping to the wrong side of the door, which could happen if it was placed and hosted to the wrong face.  If it's not hosted, then it should be easy to constrain, as long as you're constraining reference planes within your family, and then aligning and locking the door handle family with those reference planes.

Alternatively, feel free to post your family, and someone might have time to take a look at it.

Hope that helps.

[Anonymous]

Haven't learned nesting yet - tried it without sucess.

I re-designed/re-drew the handles as a sweep in a separate family and copy/pasted them into the initial family which worked once the initial family was reloaded into the project.

Thanks for your help. I'm very much on the learning curve. 

[chubbard]

One of the problems everyone encounters with wall hosted elements is that the default workplane for exterior elevation is the exterior face of wall. The RP is hard to see in plan, but is there.

If you draw on that plane elements will follow the wall as it gets thicker and thinner.  If you create your own RP you can have elemens freeze in place relative to the wall or add a parameter to move the elements forward or backward in the wall.  So unless elements need to resize with the wall you should use your own workplane and make sure to set it current when modeling.

We all have had to deal with this learning curve.

[Anonymous]

Thanks