PLotting

[Anonymous]

How does a person set up the pen settings for plotting on Revit9? I just
tried plotting my first sheets, and the walls are coming out good and dark,
but everything else is like it is screened (very light). I am plotting to a
Kip starprint 2000(I know, that's my problem right there) I also did a plot
to DWF and then to the Kip and still had the same issue. What's the trick to
getting good looking plots?

Thanks

--
John Beaman
CAD Manager/3d Modeler/Renderer
RNM Design

[Anonymous]

And also, how the heck to do you know what pen weight is being used for what
object?


"John B" wrote in message
news:5175350@discussion.autodesk.com...
How does a person set up the pen settings for plotting on Revit9? I just
tried plotting my first sheets, and the walls are coming out good and dark,
but everything else is like it is screened (very light). I am plotting to a
Kip starprint 2000(I know, that's my problem right there) I also did a plot
to DWF and then to the Kip and still had the same issue. What's the trick to
getting good looking plots?

Thanks

--
John Beaman
CAD Manager/3d Modeler/Renderer
RNM Design

[Anonymous]

John,

You first issue is with the KIP Starprint 2000. Great Plotter, But I have found that the very fine line that the plotter is capable of producing causes many Lineweights print way to thin. Regardless of Design Application you will have to bring your lineweights up 40 - 60% thicker from other plotting devices.

Second Item - You can check what pen weight is being used by the following...

Step 01: From View Pulldown Menu Select the Visibility/Graphics.. Menu Item.

Step 02: You are now in the Visibility/Graphics Overrides Dialog box. On The Model Categories Tab Select The Object Styles... Button (It is close to the bottom of the dialog box)

Step 03: The Object Styles Dialog box is where you specify the Line Weight of each object. For example you can select the Doors and expand that Category by clicking on the plus sign next to Doors. Displayed will be each item of the Door Object and you can set the lineweights for each item here. Keep in mind that a plan view is still a cut view of the object.

Also you can set you Lineweights by selecting From the Settings Pulldown Menu > Line Weights... In this dialog box you can specify the actual lineweight used per scale.

Now here is the tricky part, Each type of view such as floorplan vs. Elevation plan can have a different View Template Assigned. (Look Up View Template In Help System If Needed.) Basically you can edit the Visibility/Graphics Per view and within that dialog box you can overide the LineStyle of each object per view type. The steps I listed above would be to set up the basic overall scheme and then you edit each view type on an as needed basis. Then apply those views as needed with View Templates.

If I lost you please let me know and I would be happy to exlain further. Good Luck, Hope this helps!

[parivartan]

There is a documented issue with KIP Vs. Revit, see Revit help file.
here is a cut n paste

Prints and plots sent to KIP plotters from a file do not plot.

The Windows driver was not intended to work by selecting the Print to File option; however, by default, the KIP driver does create a file-folder structure with printable files within.

If you select the Server Properties from the printer's file menu, you will notice a port called KIPx, where x is a value from 0-99. If you configure that port, it will tell you that it is placing printed files in c:\monpath1\request by default. You can browse to this folder through Windows Explorer, and you will see a subfolder with a randomly generated name. Within that, there is a tiff image that is printable. This is what the KIP controllers are looking for.

This is the best thing that KIP can do with the Windows driver. It is supposed to reside on a network containing a KIP printer.

For the best results, use the HP650c driver. It will allow for printing to file and seems to give a decent output. Also, the PDF or PS option seems to be viable.


ROhit Jain
www.rsms-arch.com

[parivartan]

Illustration of abachman's suggestion
mind it choose your line widths as if you were doing a paper based drafting.
On your KIP Device
Device Dot Size = 0.0025"
One Pixel Line = 0.0025"
Device is capable of 400x400dpi

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the help guys. it looks like I will spend today trying to get a
good base set up that I can use and modify as needed. And as far as printing
to file with the Kip driver goes, we never do that anyways, so that's not an
issue.


wrote in message news:5175507@discussion.autodesk.com...
There is a documented issue with KIP Vs. Revit, see Revit help file.
here is a cut n paste

Prints and plots sent to KIP plotters from a file do not plot.

The Windows driver was not intended to work by selecting the Print to File
option; however, by default, the KIP driver does create a file-folder
structure with printable files within.

If you select the Server Properties from the printer's file menu, you will
notice a port called KIPx, where x is a value from 0-99. If you configure
that port, it will tell you that it is placing printed files in
c:\monpath1\request by default. You can browse to this folder through
Windows Explorer, and you will see a subfolder with a randomly generated
name. Within that, there is a tiff image that is printable. This is what the
KIP controllers are looking for.

This is the best thing that KIP can do with the Windows driver. It is
supposed to reside on a network containing a KIP printer.

For the best results, use the HP650c driver. It will allow for printing to
file and seems to give a decent output. Also, the PDF or PS option seems to
be viable.


ROhit Jain
www.rsms-arch.com

[AlmightySR]

I spent a long time on the phone with them about this issue. We have a KIP
5000.

After alot of talking and understanding. they told me to download a HPGL/2
Ploter driver and use that. I downloadded the Designjet 4000 HPGL2/RTL. It
works great now. I'm just upset with KIP for not making their own plotters
that work specifically for their chipsets.

"John B" wrote in message
news:5175350@discussion.autodesk.com...
How does a person set up the pen settings for plotting on Revit9? I just
tried plotting my first sheets, and the walls are coming out good and dark,
but everything else is like it is screened (very light). I am plotting to a
Kip starprint 2000(I know, that's my problem right there) I also did a plot
to DWF and then to the Kip and still had the same issue. What's the trick to
getting good looking plots?

Thanks

--
John Beaman
CAD Manager/3d Modeler/Renderer
RNM Design

[parivartan]

I agree
As architects we must save ourselves from headaches by sticking to industry standard products:
HP or OCe
Computers from just 1 manufacturer etc etc

Someday we must have standardization or recommendation from Autodesk, so that all drawings plot same.

We have repeatedly faced this problem between consultants, we create plot file suitable to their plotters yet the line wt becomes a concern at times.

Rohit
www.rsms-arch.com