Painting Surfaces

[Anonymous]

I have a stucco wall with a whole bunch of reveals in it. The surfaces
between the reveals I want to be painted different colors. The paint bucket
doesn't recognize these as separate surfaces, and it won't allow me to draw
split face lines on top of the reveal edges. Any ideas on how to accomplish
this?

-Thanks

[Anonymous]

Using the vertically compound wall, split the stucco at each reveal and
start a new material with the new color. Or create one wall type for each
color with the reveal at the base, and stack them to make changing the order
easier (if the order varies, for ex.).

-MJ

"Jay" wrote in message
news:5415877@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have a stucco wall with a whole bunch of reveals in it. The surfaces
between the reveals I want to be painted different colors. The paint bucket
doesn't recognize these as separate surfaces, and it won't allow me to draw
split face lines on top of the reveal edges. Any ideas on how to accomplish
this?

-Thanks

[Anonymous]

By compund wall do you mean stacked?

"mjohnson" wrote in message
news:5416904@discussion.autodesk.com...
Using the vertically compound wall, split the stucco at each reveal and
start a new material with the new color. Or create one wall type for each
color with the reveal at the base, and stack them to make changing the order
easier (if the order varies, for ex.).

-MJ

"Jay" wrote in message
news:5415877@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have a stucco wall with a whole bunch of reveals in it. The surfaces
between the reveals I want to be painted different colors. The paint bucket
doesn't recognize these as separate surfaces, and it won't allow me to draw
split face lines on top of the reveal edges. Any ideas on how to accomplish
this?

-Thanks

[Anonymous]

No, check the help files for vertically coumpound wall. Basically you can
split the layer at whatever height you want and assign a new material above,
like a brick wainscoat at the base. Do the same thing for different stucco
finishes or brick accents, etc.

-MJ


"Jay" wrote in message
news:5416941@discussion.autodesk.com...
By compund wall do you mean stacked?

"mjohnson" wrote in message
news:5416904@discussion.autodesk.com...
Using the vertically compound wall, split the stucco at each reveal and
start a new material with the new color. Or create one wall type for each
color with the reveal at the base, and stack them to make changing the order
easier (if the order varies, for ex.).

-MJ

"Jay" wrote in message
news:5415877@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have a stucco wall with a whole bunch of reveals in it. The surfaces
between the reveals I want to be painted different colors. The paint bucket
doesn't recognize these as separate surfaces, and it won't allow me to draw
split face lines on top of the reveal edges. Any ideas on how to accomplish
this?

-Thanks

[Anonymous]

I'll give that a try.

On a related note, the same thing is happening on a sloping floor. In this
case, however, the split face lines don't appear in plan (only in 3d) and
the paint bucket doesn't recognize different the split face.

"mjohnson" wrote in message
news:5417243@discussion.autodesk.com...
No, check the help files for vertically coumpound wall. Basically you can
split the layer at whatever height you want and assign a new material above,
like a brick wainscoat at the base. Do the same thing for different stucco
finishes or brick accents, etc.

-MJ


"Jay" wrote in message
news:5416941@discussion.autodesk.com...
By compund wall do you mean stacked?

"mjohnson" wrote in message
news:5416904@discussion.autodesk.com...
Using the vertically compound wall, split the stucco at each reveal and
start a new material with the new color. Or create one wall type for each
color with the reveal at the base, and stack them to make changing the order
easier (if the order varies, for ex.).

-MJ

"Jay" wrote in message
news:5415877@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have a stucco wall with a whole bunch of reveals in it. The surfaces
between the reveals I want to be painted different colors. The paint bucket
doesn't recognize these as separate surfaces, and it won't allow me to draw
split face lines on top of the reveal edges. Any ideas on how to accomplish
this?

-Thanks

[Anonymous]

To clarify, one floor slopes 3" over 100' and splitting works, the one that
doesn't slopes 7' over 200'.

"Jay" wrote in message
news:5417252@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'll give that a try.

On a related note, the same thing is happening on a sloping floor. In this
case, however, the split face lines don't appear in plan (only in 3d) and
the paint bucket doesn't recognize different the split face.

"mjohnson" wrote in message
news:5417243@discussion.autodesk.com...
No, check the help files for vertically coumpound wall. Basically you can
split the layer at whatever height you want and assign a new material above,
like a brick wainscoat at the base. Do the same thing for different stucco
finishes or brick accents, etc.

-MJ


"Jay" wrote in message
news:5416941@discussion.autodesk.com...
By compund wall do you mean stacked?

"mjohnson" wrote in message
news:5416904@discussion.autodesk.com...
Using the vertically compound wall, split the stucco at each reveal and
start a new material with the new color. Or create one wall type for each
color with the reveal at the base, and stack them to make changing the order
easier (if the order varies, for ex.).

-MJ

"Jay" wrote in message
news:5415877@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have a stucco wall with a whole bunch of reveals in it. The surfaces
between the reveals I want to be painted different colors. The paint bucket
doesn't recognize these as separate surfaces, and it won't allow me to draw
split face lines on top of the reveal edges. Any ideas on how to accomplish
this?

-Thanks

[Anonymous]

I'm not having any luck. Here's a picture of what I'm trying to get, the
multi-story wall is currently all white (left). I want that broken up into
the different colors (right). (The way I did it in this image was to create
a generic model with extrusions of different colors).

"mjohnson" wrote in message
news:5417243@discussion.autodesk.com...
No, check the help files for vertically coumpound wall. Basically you can
split the layer at whatever height you want and assign a new material above,
like a brick wainscoat at the base. Do the same thing for different stucco
finishes or brick accents, etc.

-MJ


"Jay" wrote in message
news:5416941@discussion.autodesk.com...
By compund wall do you mean stacked?

"mjohnson" wrote in message
news:5416904@discussion.autodesk.com...
Using the vertically compound wall, split the stucco at each reveal and
start a new material with the new color. Or create one wall type for each
color with the reveal at the base, and stack them to make changing the order
easier (if the order varies, for ex.).

-MJ

"Jay" wrote in message
news:5415877@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have a stucco wall with a whole bunch of reveals in it. The surfaces
between the reveals I want to be painted different colors. The paint bucket
doesn't recognize these as separate surfaces, and it won't allow me to draw
split face lines on top of the reveal edges. Any ideas on how to accomplish
this?

-Thanks

[Anonymous]

Here's the pic

"Jay" wrote in message
news:5417395@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm not having any luck. Here's a picture of what I'm trying to get, the
multi-story wall is currently all white (left). I want that broken up into
the different colors (right). (The way I did it in this image was to create
a generic model with extrusions of different colors).

[Anonymous]

I don't really see an easy way to do that one...

Maybe create a wall hosted family that consists of a 1/8" or 1/16" thick
extrusion and void to represent the finish layer? Give it parameters for
Length(instance), Height(instance), and Material(type), and create one
family type for each finish type except the main field color. Then you can
place them in elevation and align/lock to the windows and reveals. You
could copy/paste aligned by levels after the first is done, but it wouldn't
hold the locked references.

Might actually be easier than the split surface tool...

-MJ


"Jay" wrote in message
news:5417397@discussion.autodesk.com...
Here's the pic

"Jay" wrote in message
news:5417395@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm not having any luck. Here's a picture of what I'm trying to get, the
multi-story wall is currently all white (left). I want that broken up into
the different colors (right). (The way I did it in this image was to create
a generic model with extrusions of different colors).

[Anonymous]

Oh, and assuming that your windows are consistent, the new family could be
nested into the window so the blue panel is set to either side of the wide
window (for ex). Then you reload the window and all of the blue accent
panels get inserted. Put the green one above or below the smaller window,
and all of those get placed. You may still have to manually place the
unique panels though (top or bottom of building, for ex.).

If they vary in size adjacent to the same window type, you could make them
Shared nested families (under Tools>Family Category And Params) and edit the
size for each manually once inserted.

I assume you have a reason to model this aside from adding data to the file?
For basic CDs, this could also be handled with drafting elements in the
elevation only.

-MJ

"mjohnson" wrote in message
news:5418312@discussion.autodesk.com...
I don't really see an easy way to do that one...

Maybe create a wall hosted family that consists of a 1/8" or 1/16" thick
extrusion and void to represent the finish layer? Give it parameters for
Length(instance), Height(instance), and Material(type), and create one
family type for each finish type except the main field color. Then you can
place them in elevation and align/lock to the windows and reveals. You
could copy/paste aligned by levels after the first is done, but it wouldn't
hold the locked references.

Might actually be easier than the split surface tool...

-MJ


"Jay" wrote in message
news:5417397@discussion.autodesk.com...
Here's the pic

"Jay" wrote in message
news:5417395@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm not having any luck. Here's a picture of what I'm trying to get, the
multi-story wall is currently all white (left). I want that broken up into
the different colors (right). (The way I did it in this image was to create
a generic model with extrusions of different colors).

[Anonymous]

Only reason is for making decisions on the building color(s) for the client.
Thanks for the tips.

-Jay

"mjohnson" wrote in message
news:5418343@discussion.autodesk.com...
Oh, and assuming that your windows are consistent, the new family could be
nested into the window so the blue panel is set to either side of the wide
window (for ex). Then you reload the window and all of the blue accent
panels get inserted. Put the green one above or below the smaller window,
and all of those get placed. You may still have to manually place the
unique panels though (top or bottom of building, for ex.).

If they vary in size adjacent to the same window type, you could make them
Shared nested families (under Tools>Family Category And Params) and edit the
size for each manually once inserted.

I assume you have a reason to model this aside from adding data to the file?
For basic CDs, this could also be handled with drafting elements in the
elevation only.

-MJ

"mjohnson" wrote in message
news:5418312@discussion.autodesk.com...
I don't really see an easy way to do that one...

Maybe create a wall hosted family that consists of a 1/8" or 1/16" thick
extrusion and void to represent the finish layer? Give it parameters for
Length(instance), Height(instance), and Material(type), and create one
family type for each finish type except the main field color. Then you can
place them in elevation and align/lock to the windows and reveals. You
could copy/paste aligned by levels after the first is done, but it wouldn't
hold the locked references.

Might actually be easier than the split surface tool...

-MJ


"Jay" wrote in message
news:5417397@discussion.autodesk.com...
Here's the pic

"Jay" wrote in message
news:5417395@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm not having any luck. Here's a picture of what I'm trying to get, the
multi-story wall is currently all white (left). I want that broken up into
the different colors (right). (The way I did it in this image was to create
a generic model with extrusions of different colors).