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Objects imported into Revit from Auto CAD

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glxrustang
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Objects imported into Revit from Auto CAD

Whenever I insert Auto CAD files into Revit Arch, it unions the whole object and loses all applied materials on the object. I have students that are making fantastic 3D models in CAD, but when they import or insert the object it just looks gray and solid. Revit Arch also has problems exploding the 3D solids.

How can I keep the object's appearance in Revit?

Or if it is impossible, how are users in Revit City creating complex objects?
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Message 2 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: glxrustang

First and foremost, I would suggest that you refrain from importing those
AutoCAD models into Revit at all. There are performance and stability
ramifications that make it inadvisable at best.

Why are they modeling in AutoCAD and then importing into Revit? Why not just
model it in Revit?

That said, importing a DWG file into Revit brings in only the most basic
properties of the geometry - material assignments aren't one of them.

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"glxrustang" wrote in message news:6333819@discussion.autodesk.com...
Whenever I insert Auto CAD files into Revit Arch, it unions the whole object
and loses all applied materials on the object. I have students that are
making fantastic 3D models in CAD, but when they import or insert the object
it just looks gray and solid. Revit Arch also has problems exploding the 3D
solids.

How can I keep the object's appearance in Revit?

Or if it is impossible, how are users in Revit City creating complex
objects?
Message 3 of 13
glxrustang
in reply to: glxrustang

Okay thanks, I was afraid of that. I tried exporting in various formats with no success.

So far, I only taught Auto CAD, not too much in Revit yet. To bring a new program into the mix would take weeks of instruction.

Can I import their structures into Auto CAD from Revit? That would be my last resort.
Message 4 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: glxrustang

You can export either 2D or 3D geometry from Revit to AutoCAD. However, once
again, it will be basic in nature without the underlying intelligence.

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"glxrustang" wrote in message news:6333849@discussion.autodesk.com...
Okay thanks, I was afraid of that. I tried exporting in various formats
with no success.

So far, I only taught Auto CAD, not too much in Revit yet. To bring a new
program into the mix would take weeks of instruction.

Can I import their structures into Auto CAD from Revit? That would be my
last resort.
Message 5 of 13
glxrustang
in reply to: glxrustang

Isn't there a common Autodesk format that can be used?

What if I imported into Inventor then into Revit. Or Auto CAD into 3D Studio Max, then into Revit?

My students have spent hours working on these drawings and I have to find a solution for them. I need to be at least be able to explode the objects so that say, a bowl of fruit can be broken up in Revit down to the apples, oranges, and the bowl. Then maybe the objects can be saved as a Revit file. Maybe importing the CAD DWG file into Revit MEP then using the simple geometric shape from CAD to render it in Revit.
Message 6 of 13
glxrustang
in reply to: glxrustang

Alright thanks, it can't be done, but I still can import DWG's into revit, and can still apply revit materials to those DWG's. Furthermore, the 'models' my students make in Auto CAD are indeed 3D, or shall I say, isometric with six solid surfaces. For instance, lines can be drawn, those lines can be 'regioned' into a surface, then 'extruded' for volume. Vector, I suggest you look into ACAD a little closer so that the advice you give is congruent and factual.

Bottom line, I will have to divide components in ACAD, then join and apply materials in revit. Thanks for the great discussion.
Message 7 of 13
vector2
in reply to: glxrustang

glxrustang-

my advice is congruent and factual..

it's just that a lot of people new to revit
have to learn the hard way themselves
and not listen to anyone with five years
experience using revit..

i repeat- you don't want that AutoCAD
thing in your revit project that you are calling
a "model".. period.. open it somewhere
else for reference.. and if a revit user doesn't
know how to use AutoCAD- they can open
it in a separate session of revit..

if you just want to render the thing- you
can do that in newer versions of AutoCAD
or 3Ds Max..

sure you can apply revit materials to those
DWG's in revit- but it makes no sense and
you can't do it properly..

there is one good time to render DWG wireframes
in a revit session for reference if you don't
know how to render in its native program..
i do it often when i import DWG wireframes
from Max or FormZ or AutoCAD.. you render
them as a "clay model" for viewing the shape
and form of that wireframe. Edited by: vector2 on Feb 11, 2010 2:44 PM
Message 8 of 13
ToanDN
in reply to: glxrustang

Glad that you can get it done. However, a bigger picture is that Revit is not a proper software to render a bowl of fruits.
Message 9 of 13
glxrustang
in reply to: glxrustang

Update: By creating different layers in Auto CAD, you can edit and assign various materials in Revit. It can be done and Revit works flawlessly. I've got a few examples if you would like to see them as well as a direction sheet. The objects render quite well in Revit.

(heh heh heh, I congratulate myself!)
Message 10 of 13
vector2
in reply to: glxrustang

yeah you can render different layers of an imported
object in revit- but it's time-consuming to determine
what layer goes to what and assign materials to it..

and still the only purpose for doing that is viewing
the shape of the object- and one solid gray color
works great for that without the time spent..
Message 11 of 13
jnelson9
in reply to: glxrustang

I am trying to do the exact thing you are describing but still can't seem to get the objects to add materials. could I possibly see the direction sheet you are talking about?

And I think that at times it is necessary to use another program to do modeling and then transfer. I wish it worked more seamlessly, and someday if I get good enough at revit that may be all I use, but sometimes it just makes sense to model in sketchup or autocad and then import in.

Thanks!
Message 12 of 13
vector2
in reply to: glxrustang

Message 13 of 13
amhuebner
in reply to: glxrustang

If you have the direction sheet, I would absolutely love to see it. I am a senior in an interior design program, and after realizing the ease of rendering in Revit, I would love to use it, but already have an 9,000+ sq foot building completely modeled in AutoCAD. (No worries, all layers are assigned appropriately so I can render them individually in Revit!)

 

Please let me know if you can forward that direction sheet onto me!

 

Thanks so much!

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