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znewkerk
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Nested family problem

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08-22-2013 08:04 AM

Hello, so I have currnetly made a nested family for a basketball system and have a problem when i flex my elevation. As you can see my bracing that the Red arrow is pointing to is not flexing properly.. However when I edit the family its in, I have it constrained and it flexes no problem. So what could be the solution to this problem? 

 

 

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I've received you file via email. In order to make that portion of the Family obey the "flex", I simply removed the constraint depicted in the image below.

 

I would recommend heeding or at least considering Alfredo's advice that he gave in from your other thread; the diagonal Reference Planes appear to be creating some instability.


Alfredo_Medina wrote:

"When you deal with diagonals that need to be constrained, there are two good choices: reference lines constrained at the start ponts, or diagonals with their endpoints constrained to horizontal and vertical planes..

 

Using diagonal reference planes is a bad choice. They require too many constraints to stay in place, and will, most likely, break anyway, producing those errors that you are seeing. I think that is causing you problems in that family."


 

 

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CADastrophe
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Re: Nested family problem

08-22-2013 09:25 AM in reply to: znewkerk

Can you attached your current Family file? (Even if it's the same file as the file in your other thread)

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znewkerk
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Re: Nested family problem

08-22-2013 10:07 AM in reply to: CADastrophe

I tried sending the file but it exceeds the maximum file size to post on the forum.. Is there another place I could post it or send it for you to look over?

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revitus
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Re: Nested family problem

08-22-2013 11:11 AM in reply to: znewkerk

Without the file to troubleshoot, it is going to be difficult to offer suggestions.

 

You can check out Performance Sports Systems 3207 (Ceiling-Hung, Front-Fold, Front-Braced Basketball Backstop).

 

http://www.perfsports.com/document-view/3207-revit-model-1

 

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Re: Nested family problem

08-22-2013 11:42 AM in reply to: znewkerk

I've received you file via email. In order to make that portion of the Family obey the "flex", I simply removed the constraint depicted in the image below.

 

I would recommend heeding or at least considering Alfredo's advice that he gave in from your other thread; the diagonal Reference Planes appear to be creating some instability.


Alfredo_Medina wrote:

"When you deal with diagonals that need to be constrained, there are two good choices: reference lines constrained at the start ponts, or diagonals with their endpoints constrained to horizontal and vertical planes..

 

Using diagonal reference planes is a bad choice. They require too many constraints to stay in place, and will, most likely, break anyway, producing those errors that you are seeing. I think that is causing you problems in that family."


 

 

RemovedConstraint.JPG

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znewkerk
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Re: Nested family problem

08-22-2013 12:16 PM in reply to: CADastrophe

That's crazy, I can't believe you found the problem! That was such a tease that it was working no problem in the single family but not in the nested. Thanks Corey, you've helped me out a lot!!

 

-Zach 

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