Legend view and revisions

[ijnicholas]

When we add a revision clouds to our Legend views, the Revision Schedule in our sheet don't show this revision even if we have these Legend views in those sheets. Is this a bug in Revit? Is this behavior intended?

nicholas.

[Anonymous]

Try placing your revision clouds on the legends that are on the sheets (not
the ones in the legend views) and then they will show up in the revision
schedule.
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When we add a revision clouds to our Legend views, the Revision Schedule in
our sheet don't show this revision even if we have these Legend views in
those sheets. Is this a bug in Revit? Is this behavior intended?

nicholas.

[ijnicholas]

Cdv,
Do you mean we draw the rev clouds on the sheet? we are aware of this method.
Revit tracks revisions, whenever you create rev clouds either on the views (plans, elevation, etc) or the sheets. However, it does NOT work for legend views. So, again my question is whether this is a bug or was it intended to be like this for some reason,
Thanks

[Anonymous]

This is as intended. Legend components placed in legend views are simply
2D graphics derived from the available family types and are not counted
in the project. This is to avoid scheduling the graphics that represent
that component. If you place the revision cloud on the sheet, as
suggested, it will schedule.

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ijnicholas wrote:
> Cdv,
> Do you mean we draw the rev clouds on the sheet? we are aware of this method.
> Revit tracks revisions, whenever you create rev clouds either on the views (plans, elevation, etc) or the sheets. However, it does NOT work for legend views. So, again my question is whether this is a bug or was it intended to be like this for some reason,
> Thanks

[dcaimbeul]

I had the same problem and then our office declared that all revision clouds will be on sheets not within the views.

[rkitecsure]

If this were the case, why does it count the revisions when the revision system is set to by project? Why would it count them when set to By Project but not count them when set to By Sheet? Does that mean revisions inside a legend scheduling properly when it is set to By Project is an unintended result?

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@Anonymous wrote:
This is as intended. Legend components placed in legend views are simply
2D graphics derived from the available family types and are not counted
in the project. This is to avoid scheduling the graphics that represent
that component. If you place the revision cloud on the sheet, as
suggested, it will schedule.

[RichConyers]

This is a poor solution as making a change in a legend across a project now requires every single sheet to add a revision cloud. The concept of revit is to reduce repetitive tasks and this one instance is achieving the opposite result. Has anyone submitted this as a request on the ideas board for a change to the Autodesk Team? 

-Rich

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[RobDraw]

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@RichConyers wrote:

This is a poor solution as making a change in a legend across a project now requires every single sheet to add a revision cloud. The concept of revit is to reduce repetitive tasks and this one instance is achieving the opposite result. Has anyone submitted this as a request on the ideas board for a change to the Autodesk Team? 

-Rich

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Call it what you want. If it worked the way, there would be other undesirable issues.

[RichConyers]

@RobDraw , I will be the first to admit it is possible to miss some "bigger picture" items when isolating a single problem in Revit. Is there a specific issue you had in mind regarding legend revisions or was your statement simply candor? 

Cheers,

Rich

[gturnerFOX]

Looks like we have the same problem here and I noticed this before.

[MATTSVDWE8]

Just ran into this on a project and the logic makes sense after some wrestling with Revit. 

If revisions are tracked "Per Sheet" in the Revision window you cannot tag a revision cloud in a Legend as that Legend could appear across different sheets in a different sequence. Delta 1 on A111 may be Delta 4 on A112 although part of the same issuance if tracked "Per Sheet".

However, if revisions are tracked "Per Project" in the revision window you CAN tag that revision cloud in a legend as that will be consistent across all sheets for a project. 

I'm curious - any reason to track revisions by a "Per sheet" numbering method?

[jmhanbyV4TDM]

We issue per sheet as not all sheets may not be revised at the same time and we only issue the sheets that get revised.

[jbrr27]

The fact that it does tag when the revisions are set to "per project" is a fairly new addition to Revit, maybe in 2020 or 2021.  It used to be that either way, revisions in legends would end up with a blank tag.  However, that is a separate issue from the original post, which is that whether it's set to per project or per sheet, if your revision on a particular sheet only occurs in a legend, that revision does not populate in the revision schedule in your title block. 

Putting the cloud on the sheet will solve the issue, but as others have noted, if that legend occurs on multiple sheets that isn't ideal.  If that is the case, another workaround is just putting a single cloud bubble line on the sheet in an inconspicuous spot. That will populate the schedule.  I'm not surprised by the Autodesk response from 2007, as legends weren't designed to operate like other views.  However, with recent Revit versions they have been given more functionality similar to regular views, so I'm hoping this will be including in an upcoming version.