Hi,
I'd like to create a 3D view of an element to be able to use in different projects. The best logical way I can think of would be to create such element in a project just for that purpose, create 3D views with annotation and then somehow import only those 3D views to the project i'm working on...
I think it can't be done this way but it shows what I want to achieve.
What's the best way to reuse a 3D detail with annotations?
Thanks
yes you are quite right...i also think that the 3d object would come along...but i've read of a workaround to that, which would be to create a design phase exclusive to those 3D models so that they only appear whenever I want to...
would this be the best way to go about the problem?
still, I can't import 3D views from the project which has the element, even if it's linked to the project i'm working on, right?
I can't work out the workflow for this situation..
There is no way to import the 3D View into another Project - you'd have to copy over the elements and then recreate the View. Perhaps you can include those elements and the desired 3D View(s) in your Project Template, so they are there at the start of every new Project. And perhaps instead of creating a dedicated Phase for these element, maybe you could create a dedicated Design Option and place these on a Secondary Option, so they don't display unless you want them to.
If you have to import it into an existing Project, you can link it in from another Project file (create one that only has those elements) and create a 3D View that is set to "By Linked View" and link it to the desired 3D View. It'll still take a little fiddling around with the V/G Settings, though.
i'd rather have a separate project in which I create all my annotated 3D models. my workflow now is this:
I just realized a major flaw to this workflow...I can't choose the design option in a view by view basis...
Almost had it!
Any suggestions?
PS: I don't understand why this situation has never been discussed before...I would think this would be very handy for a lot of Revit users...
I think my only solution is to make use of phases since i can then select the phase I want to show on a view by view basis...
Correction! Through the visibility/graphic overrides I can in fact choose which design option to show! This solves the problem...
I'd like you now to comment on this workflow and how would you improve it..
I think if you search for "legends" you will find a lot of discussion on the subject, maybe not exactly the way you want but very close to it.
I'm trying to find a way to do legends for windows and door families, but without remaking them at every new project (thatĀ“s why iĀ“m following your post). I will try your workflow as soon i have some free time. Certainly this is a revit area which needs a lot of improvement.
Gustavo
Maybe these steps I've made in one of my projects could help you:
step 4:
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So I often ask users who come to me with a problem about how or why they can't do something in Revit with the question.... "How did you do it in AutoCAD?" I ask this, because sometimes we get too bogged down with 3D modelling in Revit, when sometimes, it doesnt need to be modelled, heck sometimes it doesnt even have to be drawn, let the schedules do the work.
If I assume for a moment (and correct me if I am off) you previoulsy had these 3D details in AutoCAD as 2D isometrics, that you pulled up everytime you needed them?
Why not do the same in Revit? Now before you all go "Are you crazy! what is the point of using Revit"... Revit is not just about documenting in 3D, in my opinion its all about the coordination and creating far more efficient and coordinated documentation. Messing around with phases, design options, groups etc doesnt sound efficient to me. Sounds more like stress days factored into every project.
If they were 2D isometrics "3D details" in drafting views exactly as you want them, then inserting them project to project would be a breeze, and as a previous post suggested, even have them in your template if they are that common amongst projects.
BUT... this may all get shot down if you tell me you need the 3D geometry as part of your sections, elevations etc. I really don't have enough information about the context of these details within your drawing set. but my 2cents.
p.s. the other beauty of this option is you can callout to these drafting views in any view with ease.
Hi damo3,
Well, I don't really agree with the "How did you do it in AutoCAD" approach, because the way I see it, AutoCAD and Revit are conceptually very different programs, and the goal here is to make the most out of Revit and what it was built to do.
In fact, I don't have these 3D details in a 2D isometric dwg file. My intention here is to go to the next level and try to improve those detail views, making them a 3D because some of them are somewhat complex. (Mind you, my discipline is Structure. I'm asking you in the Architecture forum because the question i'm asking is not specific to structure or any discipline for that matter.)
Now, I completely agree with you when you say that the main purpose of BIM is actually providing for a more efficient and coordinated way to create deliverables (documentation, etc.). I also think that displaying 3D views is actually around 10% of the benefit of using Revit, but nonetheless, those 10% become more and more important as people start to get used to the BIM concept and start to require 3D views to understand our concepts.
I'm not too pleased as well with having to mess with design phases or design options. It's just not what those tools were made for. But in this case, I can't find an alternative way to accomplish what I'm trying to do.
Actually, I think that the 3D detail in a 2D drawing fits the BIM concept better when it comes to documentation, but the problem is that I can't find a way to achieve that. One possible workflow to achieve that would be:
I just thought about this based on your comment. This workflow has the benefit of not having to mess around with design phases / options, but there's a major flaw: exporting the 3D view to autocad doesn't provide me with a 2D view, but also a 3D model. Where could I go from there to create a 2D view so that I can import into a generic annotation family in Revit?
Thanks for your input damo3. It provided me with an alternative which is almost perfect.
I should clarify, I wasn't suggesting AutoCAD and Revit are similar. However, I have noticed, that sometimes, Revit can make simple problems complex, but my point being, if you can do it in AutoCAD, you can definately do it in Revit, even if it means at a 2D level.
Glad it was helpful, even if there isnt a direct solution, always good to bounce ideas and spawn various thinking. As for your remaining problems, I would have to play around with Revit. I've never explored this concept myself, like i said, just bouncing ideas. Ill post again if i come up with anything further.
it's possible to add 3d detaili for your project with different shape and regarding to your current project.
take a look to this page : https://dddmodeling.wordpress.com/2016/07/10/how-we-can-create-good-presentation-in-revit-for-wall-f...
The tutorial is well done!
But the question is how to bring annotated 3d views from one project to another, not how to create them.
Thank you.
I understood about what he need, but honestly the way i'm coming is little different because of this: In most of the time when we are doing this is because, if we want to create same detail like our previous project is tedious and hard. and then we are trying to do something like AutoCAD . ( In AutoCAD we have many predefined detail and regarding to the project we are making edit in Text or some simple shapes and then we can submit them as documents for new project )
with this method i really believe we can create our detail regarding to the project object and this could be more logical and more sensitive for anyone who is looking and reading our documents.
I know I'm necroing this thread. But to whom ever is coming here later...
How about creating all these 3D views in a repository file and export each one as a jpeg to be used in projects?